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[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're all sinners, what's your point? You can be a mass-murderer, but as long as you accept Jesus he'll welcome you to His kingdom in open arms. That's the beauty of Christ.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This would explain all the pedophilia in your church. Do whatever vile shit you want, just accept Jesus and you're good to go. Very well thought out system.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the pedophilia is VERY exaggerated but keep at with the anti-Catholic discrimination asshole.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

VERY exaggerated

Actually as long as pedophilia is kept to acceptable levels its completely fine. (Also no its not exaggerated lol) fuck the Catholic church. It's literally impossible to discriminate against the most Demonic institution to ever exist (honorable mentions to the US and Bri'ish of course).

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any evidence Catholic Priests are more likely to be pedophiles than the general population? You seem to love sensationalist, anti-Catholic (and dare I say Christianophobic in general) propaganda.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Catholic pedophiles are 4%, which is massively higher than the general population. And even those who aren't directly victimizing children are participating in a system that covers up the crimes and protects the predators.

Also "christianophobia"? This isn't pre Constantine, and you aren't a victim.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

approximately 4% have faced these allegations

Key word: "allegations"

4% isn't even bad for people in a position of power. That's probably normal considering around ~5% of the population has pedophilic urges. And there is no "cover up," the Church takes abuse very seriously.

If you are disparaging my religion I am in fact a victim of hate.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4% isn’t even bad for people in a position of power.

Extremely suspicious copium.

That’s probably normal considering around ~5% of the population has pedophilic urges.

Your turn to source

And there is no “cover up,” the Church takes abuse very seriously.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230306-pope-john-paul-ii-covered-up-child-abuse-as-cardinal

Literally done by a cardinal/pope. And that's just one example out of many. You can look up more as I'm not providing hundreds of sources.

If you are disparaging my religion I am in fact a victim of hate.

My friend, you can't be a victim of having your bad ideas challenged and mocked. No one is born a catholic, it's not an inalienable part of you. There is no bigotry to be found in disparaging beliefs. But when Catholics disparage minorities, THAT is hate.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extremely suspicious copium.

It's called being realistic, something you're having a hard time at because you're having so much fun discriminating against me and my religion.

And hey smart ass there's this thing called google:

Come back to me when you're not linking fake news (and if it's real, shit happens everywhere! this is like saying "one school covered up a sex abuse scandal, schools must be pedophile rings!")

My friend, you can’t be a victim of having your bad ideas challenged and mocked. No one is born a catholic, it’s not an inalienable part of you. There is no bigotry to be found in disparaging beliefs.

Right, so suddenly Islamophobia isn't real either? Grow tf up and kick rocks asshole! Religious discrimination is as much discrimination as racism or homophobia!

But when Catholics disparage minorities, THAT is hate.

People of all groups disparage minorities, Catholics don't do anything unique... only difference is Jesus makes it very clear hate is unacceptable, so by disparaging minorities you are disobeying Him and being a fake Catholic.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And hey smart ass there’s this thing called google:

1-5% interesting that you've cherry picked the high end estimate, rather than say the middle of the range (2.5%) like someone being intellectually honest might.

Right, so suddenly Islamophobia isn’t real either?

No that's just racism repackaged. It's hating people for looking/sounding/acting differently. Not for their ideas. There is a bit of a grey area because highly religious people tend to include those ideas so thoroughly into their identity that it appears to be the same thing.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey dumb ass you know the mean of 1% and 5% is 3%? That's only 1% short of your supposed "pedophile priests" "estimate" (which includes unproven ALLEGATIONS need I remind you).

You realize people still hate Muslims that are white and only speak English? How about shutting up?

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the mean of 1% and 5% is 3%?

Fair enough, it's late and I made a 0.5% mistake.

That’s only 1% short of your supposed

Less than your 1% mistake of course. Hypocrite.

How about shutting up?

Lol. Lmao even. But sure I think we're done here.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey loser, you still haven't proved Catholicism has any major pedophile problem. But keep discriminating against me!

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml lol coward, can't finish what you started because you know you're wrong.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've got better shit to do than argue with someone who is completely bankrupt of any intellectual honesty. Get a life.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... you admit defeat?

Quite honestly, you need to get a life and stop discriminating against my religion! And stop being an atheist asshole Xi Jingping dickrider.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml lol downvoting my posts but not responding. Just admit you want to persecute Catholics.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml I hope you can see the wrong in your ways instead of cowering. Debate me. I want to discuss with you. Unless... you’re afraid of losing of course.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It would appear to be that way

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you call yourself a communist but suddenly don't believe in rehabilitative justice? Why would you question the system God came up with? Weirdo.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you question the system

Aren't you larping as a socialist lmao?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Questioning economic/political systems is very different from questioning the system of The divine ruler/higher power of the universe, who knows infinitely more than you or I ever will. But keep being a heathen I guess.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But keep being a heathen I guess.

That is the plan. And the plan of literally everyone on the planet who doesn't share your religion. It's incredibly chauvinistic of you to assume your religion is correct by default BTW.

questioning the system of The divine ruler/higher power of the universe, who knows infinitely more than you or I ever will.

I'll tell you what, prove to me that your god knows anything, anything at all (and therefore exists), and I'll never say another bad word about catholics again. Hell I'll become a catholic immediately. What do you say? Should be easy enough to prove "god" knows more than us. You were so sure after all.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That is the plan. And the plan of literally everyone on the planet who doesn’t share your religion

Buddy I respect Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, whatever, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT AN ATHEIST I won't think you're crazy

I’ll tell you what, prove to me that your god knows anything, anything at all

Every portrait has a painter. How blatantly narcissistic of you to believe the stars in the sky and the toes on your feet just exist because they exist. Do you think the universe and the supposed "big bang" just came from nothing? EVERY PORTRAIT HAS A PAINTER. Let that sink in. And Christianity is the only religion with evidence btw.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How blatantly narcissistic of you to believe the stars in the sky and the toes on your feet just exist because they exist.

You have it inverted. If the universe exists without regard to me, that's the opposite of narcissism. Wheras if you believe the universe exists because an all powerful paternal figure really loves you and all your buddies specifically, with a perfect grand plan for you. What is that but the height of narcissism?

EVERY PORTRAIT HAS A PAINTER.

A meaningless platitude and a humanocentric view of the universe. AKA more narcissism.

And Christianity is the only religion with evidence btw.

Provide literally any then.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you REALLY think the Universe simply sprung into action from "science" and nothing else? That everything on Earth just, painted itself through evolution? That is INCREDIBLY ignorant.

If there is no God, there is no objective morality. You just live your life believing murder is only wrong SUBJECTIVELY?? That EVIL is technically a made up concept??? Tell that to fucking Hitler. Without religion there is no light, no hope, no moral laws...

Wheras if you believe the universe exists because an all powerful paternal figure really loves you and all your buddies specifically

God loves ALL of his Creations, even you, despite you failing to see it... it's not too late to turn to the light.

https://evidenceforchristianity.org/

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is INCREDIBLY ignorant.

About as ignorant as claiming your religions creation myth is correct despite lacking any evidence for it whatsoever?

If there is no God, there is no objective morality. You just live your life believing murder is only wrong SUBJECTIVELY??

Even if your god existed and handed you your morality, it would still be subjective. Merely his subjective view on morality.

https://evidenceforchristianity.org/

Lol, lmao even. There is a lot to go over on that site, not really a direct source per se. But it's very telling that straight off the bat I'm asked to donate and subscribe. Kind of gives away the motives don't you think? Do you have any direct evidence to show, rather than asking me to sift through a site which is dominated by a section aptly called apologetics? The science section seems to be sparse on proof.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if your god existed and handed you your morality, it would still be subjective. Merely his subjective view on morality.

God isn't a person, put some respect to His fucking name asshole. He knows all, he is divine and omnipresent, He sees you doubting Him right now and scowls. The law of God is the universal, objective law.

Maybe actually read that site because there's PLENTY of indisputable evidence.

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God isn’t a person, put some respect to His fucking name asshole. He knows all, he is divine and omnipresent,

Your subjective opinion of course.

He sees you doubting Him right now and scowls.

Are you writing a fanfic or something lmao?

The law of God is the universal, objective law.

Objective? Clearly not.

indisputable evidence.

Again point to literally any. Rather than the front page of a big site. Imagine if people linked the front page of Wikipedia instead of specific pages. It's ridiculous behavior.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your subjective opinion of course.

Indisputable common sense that the universe came from SOMETHING.

And if time, space, and matter had a beginning, then whatever created space, time, and matter had to be outside of it. Something can't from nothing.

Are you writing a fanfic or something lmao?

God is omnipresent, He sees, feels, and understand everything in the world, all sin and all good, all love and all hate.

Objective? Clearly not.

The King of Kings gets to decide objectivity yes. Regardless, "objective" is a meaningless human construct that your small Earthly mind clings to, God is so much more.

Again point to literally any. Rather than the front page of a big site. Imagine if people linked the front page of Wikipedia instead of specific pages. It’s ridiculous behavior.

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