[-] trias10@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I agree the larger philosophy behind BLM isn't a brand, but the slogan "BLM" is a brand.

To me personally, BLM is kind of stupid, the correct slogan we should all be wearing is ACAB, because from everything I have seen, US police are just as happy assaulting and killing anyone who gets in their way, regardless of colour. Cops in the US just want to kill people, it's an us versus them mentality, and I'd say it's pretty colour blind, like those 5 Nashville black cops who tortured and killed that black motorist. And I remember seeing the Atlanta BLM protests in 2020, and there were loads of black cops horrifically beating protestors too. It's honestly not a black problem, it's a blue vs everyone else problem.

And then some of the absolute worst police killings I've seen have been white cops killing white people, such as Daniel Shaver, Ryan Whitaker, and Officer Longman of Utah.

Some cops are definitely racially biased, but it's hardly Mississippi Burning anymore, even in the South. What is a problem is a general militarisation of police and complete lack of oversight or consequences for their actions.

But make no mistake, any cop would just love to kill you to make his or her day, whether you're white or black.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree with you about that, but these employees have chosen to do a job where they come face to face with customers daily, and some of those customers may get offended by seeing an employee wearing a BLM badge, in red states for example. The company doesn't want to antagonise a potential customer and lose a sale, so they're asking that no employees wear any political markings. And honestly, I think that's a fair request if you work in a customer-facing role.

Notice that this ruling only applies to Whole Foods workers, not Amazon warehouse workers, who can probably wear whatever they want since they don't deal with customers.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You actually can fire people based on their political beliefs, because believe it or not, political affiliation is not a protected class under current US federal law (maybe some state law though). There are only 7 current federally protected classes: age, race, sex, religion, marital status, disability, and sexual orientation. That's why Republicans have been announcing they want to make political affiliation a protected class soon, because I guess that's the next big battleground, is employers start to hire/fire based on politics.

I take your points, but I guarantee you this isn't a decision about politics by Amazon, but purely a maximisation of revenue decision. Whole Foods employees interact with customers face to face, every day, all across the US, from blue states to red states. They know that their customers in some places consider BLM to be a political organisation, one that they don't support, and that goes for proud boys, KKK, whatever. The point is, you don't want to antagonise any customers coming in through the door, and corporate is aware that people are awfully sensitive these days and ready to kick off over any tiny thing, so to ensure no customer gets offended and takes their business elsewhere, and to ensure a policy which can be applied nationally for all states where Whole Foods exists, it's just easier to say they won't allow anything which their customers could potentially consider political.

That's all this is, it's not the political dog whistle some are making it out to be. This is just corporations wanting to remain neutral and take money from every customer, not just liberal ones. Hence I agree with this policy, it's not coming from a bad place and it's not an absurd request either.

And yes, as you said, not allowing someone to wear a religious article of clothing is a lawsuit waiting to happen, which will be a slam dunk, but this isn't the same.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

I think you're way into the weeds here and forget the most important thing to remember about "freedom": things like the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are a compact between you and the government, not you and private companies. Private companies don't owe you anything besides whatever the government has expressly legislated, such as explicit protection for religious clothing and icons like crosses, Sikh turbans, etc.

However, beyond that, individual companies have the right to request their employees look and dress in certain ways. The flip side there is, if you don't like those rules, you are free to not work there anymore.

Of course, legislators can always choose to pass laws forcing companies to allow more exemptions, but that hasn't happened yet for displays of a political organisation.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not just a corporate thing, police, military, and fire brigade aren't allowed to wear overt political badging either.

There's a general rule that if you work for an organisation which asks you to wear a work related uniform of some kind, you don't get to add anything to it, political or otherwise. You don't see bobbies with a Pink Floyd sticker on their chest.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'm with Amazon on this, seems a reasonable ask for employees to not wear any political/cultural/social things at work with their official uniform.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

How much money do you get if you file?

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I totally agree, we should treat animals the same as we treat humans. I really don't understand why so many people value animal lives lesser to those of humans.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Is it possible to eat those humans? If it's actually nutritious I don't see a problem, and it's less wasteful, as you said. Soylent Green operated on this principle.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I agree entirely, which I guess brings both of us back to the original OP in that people succumb to apathy and helplessness when dealing with climate change. The great unwashed masses will never agree to policies which curtail their economic prosperity or inconvenience them, and capitalism will never agree to anything which halts its self-serving pursuit of profits. So it's Waterworld or bust, and I'll end up as that old dude inside the bowels of the oil tanker.

[-] trias10@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Have you been accused of glibness before in your life by friends, family, or co-workers?

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