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I don't think the interesting issue is why not centralization. There's tons of better explanations out there, but seriously, just "Elon Musk" is enough to explain why centralization is bad.

But the post does raise an interesting issue IMHO, and it is the lack of good explanation as to why federation between different platforms with different paradigms. Why federation between different Mastodon servers is obvious. Why federation between Mastodon and Calckey and whatever else is obvious too. Same with federation between different Lemmy instances, or between Lemmy and Kbin. It just makes sense. What is not clear is why we want/need/like federation between Lemmy and Mastodon. Sure, you can post in a Lemmy community from Mastodon, but it sucks. You can follow a Lemmy community from Mastodon, but the experience isn't great either.

I do think there are good reasons for this, but I haven't thought enough about it to articulate it properly. My thinking is that while a Mastodon-like service federating with a Lemmy-like service doesn't seem to make much sense, Mastodon federating with a Facebook-like service does make sense. And I'm not sure if a Facebook-like thing federating with Lemmy makes sense, but I can definitely imagine something sitting somewhere in the middle between those two. And also, perhaps more importantly, we don't want to erect artificial walls between the different ActivityPub services. Sure, the Mastodon-Lemmy integration sucks, and maybe it shouldn't exist, but probably nobody will use it much, exactly because it sucks. But if we add a thing saying "no you can't do it", then we start needing to define borders between different services. Is microblogging different from blogging? What about a Facebook-like wall? Or a tumblr-like feed? Are those different enough from each other to be different services? Who wants to be the one defining those borders? I think the current solution, where anything is possible and integrations that don't make sense just don't happen organically, is the best.

But still, that is a way more itneresting question than just "why federation".

Nice, that looks like exactly what I was thinking about. I'll suscribe, thanks!

No, no, a los chilenos se les entiende bien, cuando escriben.

Ehh… qué hacés boludo todo bien? Re piola este server. Está padrísimo, me vale madres lo que piensen otros panas.

I don't even think it's a difference with Reddit. Reddit also has community duplication. Sure, maybe not as bad, but it's there. Compare /r/meirl to /r/me_irl. The only difference is that in Fediverse you'll see the same community name in different instances, but is it really that much more confusing than the meirl case?

There is, yes, a lack of discoverability for communities. Maybe we need a "recommend me a community" community. Like "I'm looking for a Spanish speaking science fiction community", and people can say "oh, yeah, try this one".

Other than that, the main advantage Reddit has in this area is that it has had a more or less stable population for a very long time, so which community wins out out of an initial set has already been resolved, while this is younger (yes, it's been around for a couple of years, but most people here haven't) and therefore that process is just starting to play out.

Werewords is twenty questions mixed with werewolf. If you played werewolf, you understand the rules immediately. The app takes care of dealing with the hidden information. So it's really simple. And every time somebody says "we'll play a couple of rounds before going home" I know I'm staying for a couple of hours, because two rounds turns into twenty really easily.

Yes, news and worldnews are different things. But the ones I mentioned above are the same thing, different subreddits. Like me_irl and meirl. No reason for there to be two, but there are.

So sure, maybe the Federation thing makes it even more common. But it's not a new problem, and it mostly self corrects. People gravitate to the bigger community. The smaller community will get some strays asking why there is not much movement here, and somebody will reply because we're all at this other place and then the next stray sees the message and doesn't even have to ask.

Lemmy does have some rough edges. The 0 at the front of the version number is supposed to mean that.

But really, some people will buy the crappiest early access game on steam and then complain that a beta version of a service that is actually trying to do something fairly complicated is not perfect for every use case.

The problem with the multiple redundant communities is real, but it's also real on Reddit. It's just that Reddit has been around for much longer and there has been time for everyone to reach a consensus on which community is the real one. And even then there's different ones still. Is it workreform, antiwork, or workabolition you're looking for? Or for something with less of an ideological debate behind the separation, is it tabletopgamedesign or boardgamedesign?

Hola, yo no soy chileno pero les invadí la instancia.

Una aclaración a lo que dice Fean Doe: Muchas instancias están sobrecargadas en este mometno y no siempre funciona eso. Creo que vamos a tener que tener un poco de paciencia por unos días.

lemmy.ml está caído, está dando error 502 desde hace horas. Va a ser un problema los próximos días. Yo tengo dos suscripciones en estado "pending subscription", las dos de lemmy.ml.