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[–] masterspace@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My guess would be that

a) building their next social network on an open platform will let antitrust regulators off their back

and/or b) a Twitter clone sounds less sexy then a web3 / decentralized fediverse play. Meta has chased every other bandwagon (metaverse, ai, etc), it's entirely possible this is just them always chasing the hot new thing so that they don't miss out. They certainly aren't going to let themselves be Blackberry and refuse to change, they'd rather desperately copy every hot new thing and change quickly to always have an offering that appeals to their customers good enough

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And it would only be a protocol extension when it would be returned upstream, which I highly doubt that Facebook’s parent company Meta would do that.

Oh yeah, Meta definitely never contributes anything back to the open source community, I type into a React frontend, that uses a GraphQl communication protocol to an API built using node, watchman, and a variety of other meta made or sponsored projects.

/S

https://github.com/orgs/facebook/repositories?type=all

[–] masterspace@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

There are over 2B Instagram accounts actually and over 115M in the US alone, so yeah, they definitely didn't just starting counting them all.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You know what's irrelevant to the current conversation about how they have so many users they don't need us?

How many fediverse accounts are there total? A couple hundred thousand? And how many of those are duplicates across instances?

Whether or not all those users stick is irrelevant, the user counts for lemmy / kbin also won't have all of them stick. The point is that they do not need us or our content. They can hit a bill without even supporting activitypub.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, this feels like a massive corporation with massive marketing and market research departments succinctly breaking down a concept that most on the fediverse nerd out too much to do.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Do you know what happens to protocols over time? They get extended with user facing features or they stop being used and die.

Once again, Meta got 100M users in a week, they do not need to support the fediverse. Stop acting like this is some calculation and not just them building the same basic features they have in their other platforms that users expect into their new one.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's more like locking your door and barring it up really good and making it inconvenient for you to get in or out and makes your place less appealing to others, and at the same time you've got several wide open doors behind you.

Federating from threads accomplishes nothing. It's just echo chamber hysteria. Threads isn't even organized around communities, it's organized around people, by default no Threads users would be in Lemmy communities and we wouldn't see any of their content.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao at you complaining about toxicity when you're toxically judging and gatekeeping 2 Billion people.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Now, there are single sign-on (SSO) possibilities, but for them to be universally accessible across the Fediverse, you either need to impose them on 20,000 admins across two dozen software implementations, or you need them all to a) agree to support SSO, and b) agree to support the same SSO options.

Yeah, this is the real crux of the issue and is a large unsolved problem. We simply have no standardized system for decentralized identity verification.

SSO works as a way of maintaining identity across the fediverse, but that's not really federating identity so much as it's getting all instance to offload identity verification to various central services.

I believe I heard Microsoft had a research project in the area of decentralized identity verification but I don't know if it went anywhere or how suitable it would be.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I think what they mean is identity that is coupled to them the person and not whichever instance they choose to sign in on.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, if they actually subscribe to threads and discussions across instances, and isn't that kind of the point of a social network? For users to use it? Also odd that half the arguments against it are that it will kill the fediverse and half of the arguments are that it will provide too many users to the fediverse.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How will not federating with them prevent that?

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