WhyIDie

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[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I halfway was going to just drop it, but decided to come back and also explain it for any few that happened to trip across this time capsule of a comment years down the line, but see it on lemmy instead of kbin, and them getting confused about what I implied earlier

on some social media sites where you upvote yourself by default, it's all fine and dandy since that's the default and everyone already has their own - people looking over messages know it all beforehand and everything is upfront

on somewhere like kbin, where you have to go out of your way to do it, it can come off as manipulation to make a message appear to have a greater consensus than it would otherwise have. the next step up, and in definitely-ethically-dubious territory, is having multiple accounts to upvote yourself to boost your message

early upvotes/downvotes makes others that are quickly passing by a message feel more comfortable piling on one way or the other; group psychology is funky like that. it's also a way some bad actors social engineer the system to get what they want seen to be seen, while burying others. I'm not saying you're doing any of that beyond upvoting only yourself, but maybe this all explains a little better on the reasoning about its sketchiness on upvoting yourself on specific social media that don't give a self upvote by default. It's not a god-awful thing to do since a single vote is mostly innocuous, but it also isn't a good look when someone looks into it and spots it

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

that's at least a little more than mildly infuriating

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism
it's going with the "us vs them" mentality mentioned in the post. and I see you with your self-upvote there, I really love kbin for that transparency

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

[tosses you out of the kidnapping van]

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you either agree with me, or you're in the other tribe

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

to the ackchyuallies here: I know, but relax and enjoy the mental image of the fiction

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

and no other prints around, so the cat came out and, of course, immediately went back in

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

same deal with the ones with matching the orientation of something with a given direction being pointed at; it's training 2d-to-3d AI image generators

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago
[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

for me, the main selling point of kbin over lemmy was the transparency in user interactions on here. the last straw on the camel's back over at lemmy for me was seeing blatant vote manipulation hiding behind the end-user anonymity; kept an eye on some accounts that would instantly always get the same number of upvotes, dependent on the specific account, less than 3-5 seconds after posting. it was always some single-digit amount (I assume to not get flagged by the system), but that's all it takes to signal others to feel safer upvoting it.

the same can be done likewise to bury others' content that they can view as competition to what they want seen, multiple early downvotes can act as a subconscious deterrent to others

[–] WhyIDie@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

okay, I'll concede, my scope also was pretty limited. I still stand by not trusting the public with deciding what's the best use of AI, when most people think what we have now is anything more than statistics supercharged in its implementation.

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