Thank you comrade!
Red_Scare
joined 4 years ago
Fucking scary read.
Ukrainian neonazis were always open about their goal to become the hotbed for Nazi restoration in Europe.
Also remember they are not only training Ukrainian forces but also all the Western volunteers. Fun times ahead for Europe when their neonazi chickens come home to roost.
Creeping neofascism among Ukraine’s armed forces
Creeping? It’s been deeply entrenched for at least 80-something years.
Suggesting fascism has been "deeply entrenched" in the Red Army is possibly the dumbest thing I read around here and it's sad to see this upvoted.
By "👆" do you mean you're agreeing with the comment above?
Because the links you posted paint a comletely different picture: Ukrainian fascism was created outside Ukraine, sponsored from outside Ukraine, and apart from the brief period of Nazi occupation, it was absolutely not "deeply entrenched" in Ukraine which was a Soviet republic where Nazi collaborators got what they deserved.
From the first part:
Today the OUN justify their crimes by vilifying the Soviet Union but in reality they had no presence in Soviet Ukraine and operated only in Poland and from exile in Europe. It was only after the German invasion of Poland in September 1939, when the Soviets would occupy Western Ukraine as part of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, was Ukraine briefly united. The Soviets would launch a crackdown on the OUN, a fascist terrorist group spying for Nazi Germany, arresting thousands of suspected members and executing hundreds. This would continue until the German invasion of the Soviet Union on 22 June 1941.
It was in Poland’s Second Republic that the OUN would have its origins. In 1920 the veterans of the Sich Riflemen who had fought for the ZUNR in western Ukraine founded the UVO an underground terrorist army. UVO stood for Ukrainian Military Organization in Ukrainian. Its founders were Levhen Konavalets, Andrii Melnyk and Roman Sushko. Konavalets would head the UVO and later the OUN until his death. Melnyk would head the OUN after Konavalets. The UVO was not a mass political organization but instead a terrorist group that funded itself by spying for the German Abwehr (Military Intelligence). Initially the main political party of the Ukrainian nationalists were the UNDO who sought to win independence through legal and democratic means and initially were opposed to fascism and terrorism. By the 1930s however, the right wing of UNDO secretly worked closely with the OUN. The UVO founded the OUN the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists at the 1st Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists in Vienna held between 28 January and 3 February 1929. The OUN were to be a mass political organization recruited from Ukrainian nationalist youth groups that were popular in Poland.
The main sponsors of the OUN were Germany, Lithuania, and Italy. Germany and Lithuania provided funding, military training and passports. In the border wars that followed World War 1, Poland had captured an important chunk of Lithuania including its main city. Lithuania funded the OUN in revenge. Italy provided OUN training bases and Stepan Bandera’s brother Oleksandr spent years in fascist Italy studying for a degree in political science and engaging in fascist activism.
Part 2 discusses WW2. Obviously Nazi collaborators were in power during the Nazi occupation, this is true everywhere Nazis occupied territory, from Western Europe to Belarus and Russia.
Most of Part 3 is about the post-war fighting between UPA bandits and the Red Army. Suffice to say by the early 50s the Red Army has eradicated Banderites in Ukraine.
Which is exactly why Part 4 is called "The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992" - Ukrainian fascism has only survived in exile, and only thanks to intense funding by CIA and the like.
This is the opposite of fascism being "deeply entrenched" anywhere in the USSR during it's existence.
Fascism was created in the Western Europe, it was used to decimate Ukraine, Belarus, and European parts of Russia during WW2, and after those parts of the USSR were liberated it was nurtured in the West during the cold war to be forcibly transplanted back to post-Soviet states after the fall of the USSR.
Look, the fascist Kuomintang exists in Taiwan. Imagine USA manages to topple the CPC and put Kuomintang in power, would you say "fascism has been deeply entrenched in China for the past 75 years"?
"Outflank them from the right"
You are completely misinformed.
First of all "kulaks" were not working peasants who lived self-sufficiently off farming their land and raising their livestock, you are thinking of "serednyaks", the class below kulaks in the 4-tier rural class system of Imperial Russia. Kulaks were rural loan sharks and land owners who did not work but rather lived off extortionate interest rates from loans to "serednyaks" and from exploiting the labour of "bednyaks" (literally "the poor") and, mainly, the seasonal labour of "batraks" who were the class below "the poor" - many of them homeless, traveling from village to village and working quite literally for a bit of food and a place to sleep in the barn.
If you intend to keep talking publically about kulaks, do look into those classes, look up who batraks were and what kind of life they lead before the revolution, the mortality, the diseases, how many they were compared to the number of kulaks. Find out what dekulakisation brought not only for kulaks, but also for that huge number of serednyaks, bednyaks, and batraks they exploited. Find out what dekulakisation did to overall child mortality, child hight, life expectancy, and so on.
Second, kulaks were not murdered, they were eliminated as an economic class by removing the relataionship of exploitation. Their lands were taken and given to the people, and the ones who resisted were deported with their families.
https://simons-rock.edu/news/vijay-prashad-symposium-keynote.php
I watched this on YT, unfortunately can't find it anymore...
Prolekult is amazing
I think Vijay Prashad's lecture on Dubois compliments this video very well for a more rounded overview of fascism
Edit: unfortunately the lecture is not available on YT anymore, real shame, it was one of my favourite lectures of his:
https://simons-rock.edu/news/vijay-prashad-symposium-keynote.php
I managed to find the old link in my browser history, it's dead :(
100% agree with you there!
To me this reads as "fascism has been entrenched in Ukraine since WW2", I didn't realise they meant the West.