Ohthereyouare

joined 1 year ago
[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Old? Just check most places on Lemmy. The amount of tankie alts is huge. They're everywhere on Lemmy. I've only been here a month and it's clear as day.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is actually an interesting take.

And, I almost tend to agree. They're awfully tough to digest, even with empathy. Their tactics are.. bad?

It's almost like an abused animal that you'd like to help. But, it's such a threat that you kinda have to leave it be. Every time you try to feed it, it bites and scratches you,and everyone around you.

At some point, despite the empathy, you just let it starve.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You'll find no shortage of irony in the Lemmygrad scene, I assure you.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why I came here too. Then, it was infested with tankies. Been a strange experience so far.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True. But, the power users leaving will likely have a long term impact.

The thing that set Reddit apart from all the other spaces to settle down on the internet was that Reddit's users made it work, not Reddit.

They had their faults; moderation wasn't perfect. But, it was good in the places it needed to be. Reddit was also very good at attracting "experts" in niche topics. You could reliably trust askscience, askhistorians, whatisthisbug, etc.

Reddit has plenty of memes, porn and funny cats to attract the masses, but it was the power users that made Reddit what it was.

On top of that, Reddit was so customizable because of all the 3rd party apps that had polish. Apollo, BaconReader, etc., no ads and lots of options to choose from to suit your needs.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't complaining about bias though. That's the thing. I was asking for reliable news aggregation on Lemmy. Big difference

Nobody here seems to understand that though. Or, very few.

I know news is bias. That isn't the point. It's the posting of blogs, YouTube videos, altering headlines, using alts to brigade voting and push an agenda... Here, on Lemmy, not in the media.

The media is a known commodity. If I read an MSN article, I know their bias. If I read a fox news article, I definitely know their bias.

A bunch of edgy "communists" and qanon accounts manipulating the large news and politics community ON LEMMY is the point. Not the news

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think Reddit did a better job than you give them credit for. The may not have achieved eutopia, but they outperform all others who've tried up until this point.

Lemmy has more promise than Reddit, IMO, for well moderated news aggregation because they've seen the reddit model and can replicate it without the bondage of Reddit administration.

The problem, as it seems to me currently, is that Lemmy, specifically in the news and politics realm, lacks moderation of any quality. And, that's not necessarily a shot at moderators either. They're either new to the roll or there aren't enough of them.

They also don't have the benefit of year of users bitching and shaping the rules that govern a community, as Reddit has had.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sigh... Nevermind. Thanks for trying. You and I live in two different realities. God speed

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Man, this whole thread has tried my patience. It's as if not a single Lemmy user thinks that current events are worth following.

I'm not sure where everyone is getting their information, but this response is sorta terrifying.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay. Fine. So, what is the solution then?

Nobody should pay attention to anything? Where should I get my information? Should I visit all the people and ask them?

How am I going to find out what happened today at the NATO Summit? Should I have gone to Lithuania and attended the summit in person?

Is it alright if I read the article on NPR that explains what legislation past the Senate in the US? Or do I need to go visit the Senate myself so I can eliminate NPR's bias?

I'm very interested in science. Climate change and physics specifically. Where should I find out about the latest discoveries in science? Do I need to read all of the journals myself? Cuz, if so, I'm fucked. I don't have that sort of time.

And, admittedly, even though I consider myself well informed, I'm just not up to speed on all of the equations in astrophysics. So, now, I'm really fucked. Do I need to know a physicist personally so I can ask them?

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

This is a lot closer to link aggregation than social media.

[–] Ohthereyouare@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kind of, yes? I've commented on it more than once here.

This is the point you're missing. Although, I guess I'm glad you've stuck around... For some reason...

A place where you have a variety of well vetted sources. A place where you don't have to wade through a sea of "Hunter Biden's laptop", "lizard men" and Infowarriors.

Does news have a slant? Yes. Am I well aware of that? Yes.

The difference is, there's no longer a "both sides". I'm not interested in what some qanon blogger thinks about the Senate. And, here on Lemmy, that goal is achievable. And, I would argue, close.

However, the problem here is that you have bad actors operating unchecked. That is a problem of an immature platform, not an inherent problem with news in general as you've spent a lot of time and words intimating to me.

So, as we bring this bad boy around full circle and I put this behind me; the question is, is there a place for reliable news and politics? The answer to that question is, apparently, not yet. But, I'll hold out hope that it happens because Lemmy is a promising platform that has a lot growing up to do.

 

I'm enjoying Lemmy so far, for the most part.

Everything here is pretty good save for the fact that all the news and politics I can find is dominated by the same few accounts.

Half or more of the accounts have a very clear agenda. They modify headlines. Lie. Spread disinformation. And generally are just extremely toxic groups.

It doesn't seem to be a secret here either. And moderators appear to have no interest in putting a stop to it.

So, where are you subbed to for reliable news and US/Global politics?

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