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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I learned so much over the years abusing Cunningham's.

Could have a presentation for the C-suite for a major company, post some tenuous claim related to what I intended to present on, and have people with PhDs in the subject citing papers correcting me with nuances that would make it into the final presentation.

It's one of the key things I miss about Reddit. The scale of Lemmy just doesn't have the same rate and quality of expertise jumping in to correct random things as a site with 100x the users.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The major problem with reddit is that you could never really trust the credentials of the person you were talking to. They might have been PhDs or they might have been 13 year olds who just learned to Google. It amazes me how many times I saw a highly upvoted comment posted about a subject that I knew a lot about, but was just so blatantly wrong.

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah voting on content has nothing to do with quality and everything to do with feelings.

People just vote for their side of any discussion, regardless of validity.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Only if it's something controversial. If it's something technical with no political affiliation, people vote for answers that sound right. Thankfully Cunningham's usually comes to the rescue on time.

[–] Feyter@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

To be fair this is not a Reddit thing and it can be found in the fediverse too. I can remember some of such situations where a person just posted wrong stuff but in a very confident way. I was able to prove him wrong later but nobody cared anymore.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

cunningham's law is intended to be used recursively

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[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as they provide appropriate sources then it doesn't really matter who they are

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no clear winner between a 13yo who can use a search engine and a crusty old PhD who can't keep up with changing times.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

Especially if you move 0.1% away from that PhD's particular specialty.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, unironically exactly why people think LLMs are smart.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

Unless the thing falls under non-commercial electronics or computing. The community on here is skewed towards that for obvious reasons.

[–] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I always kind of felt like those voices began to be drowned out the more and more popular reddit became. You're correct about Lemmy's scale, but there is certainly a sweet spot. I'm happy knowing Lemmy hasn't yet reached its own, and reddit's is long gone. I'm happier here and it's likely only going to get better.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Errmmmmh achstually.., lol

[–] tilcica@lemm.ee 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

i do the same thing. its called Murphy's law :D

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know what you're doing but I can't help myself. It's Cunningham's law.

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cole's Law: if there's a salad, I want that one.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brannigan’s Love is like Brannigan’s cole slaw, wet and chunky.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

The spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Took me a minute to realize this was a pun... shame on me.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Cole's law is best with a burger.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest you almost for me

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahem, it’s called Poe’s law

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah thats called laws of thermodynamics! And they were made up by Elvis together with is homy Obama (the guy without last name) who were known for their contributions to biology

[–] moody@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

Are you talking about uncle Obama, well known for his banana?

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

imo it's not that correcting feels better than helping but rather it's easier to correct someone than draft an answer of your own.

[–] suy@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes that's part of the issue (or the whole deal), but sometimes it's not even that.

Sometimes it's that someone asked something difficult and elaborate to answer, which has been answered a ton of times, and it's tedious to answer again and again. But if someone answers with misinformation or even straight FUD, then one needs to feel the urge to correct that to prevent misinformation.

I suffered that with questions in r/QtFramework. Tons of licensing questions, repeated over and over, from people who have not bothered to read a bit about such a well known and popular license as LGPL. Then someone who cares little for the nuance answers something heavy handed, and paints a wrong picture. Then I can't let the question pass. I need to correct the shitty answer. :-(

[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I would say that if someone asks a difficult question it's often difficult because it's very general, so you don't have any specific point to answer that you know will satisfy the person asking.

On the other hand, if someone is writing misinformation then they provide specific statements which still may be difficult to correct but you have those anchor points you can refer to.

So I guess the thing here is that if someone, after asking a question, writes a BS answer they actually refine their question and narrow its scope, thus making it easier to answer.

I usually see broad questions about rather simple things unanswered, but very specific yet difficult questions answered

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ACTually, they're still helping you, so it would be better to say correcting = helping.

Sincerely,

Definitely not Gollum's alt.

[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don't asks us, precious.

[–] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nicely corrected, thanks.

[–] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

My coworkers had a hard time picking resturaunts, so I started recommending McDonald's for work parties, and then everyone else started chiming in with actually good ideas.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

This is like putting a $10 price tag on a free sidewalk item so someone will steal it.

[–] brothershamus@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out. I was just about to upvote it.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Who post programming questions on Reddit? Are you looking for answers in meme format?

[–] tilcica@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

reddit was/is much more than a meme site

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, meme communities' comments could have some of the best in-depth discussions. Memes tend to provide a great launching point for discussions. A sort of prompt that everyone can coalesce around to talk in a serious manner about the subject.

/r/dndmemes and /r/programmerhumor were two great examples.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they're still pretty good on Lemmy!

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Omg I didn’t even realise which community I was in as I made that comment!

But yeah, this one and !rpgmemes@ttrpg.network are both great.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are serious programming subs. However, I find that those tend to debate/discuss solutions/approaches moreso than the actual code itself, although that's not unheard of either. For actual coding questions, I want to say there's a "learn programming" sub that has those, but they're pretty strict about just doing people's homework for them (those posts tend to be pretty obvious).

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where would you post them?

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DUPLICATED, CLOSED, etc.

Joke aside, for an open question I'd prefer posting on Reddit/Lemmy/forums to have an open answer.

SO is too strict on its policy.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Snowplow8861@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost like that xkcd joke...

[–] xoggy@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I was trying to remember where I read this originally. Thank you.

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