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[–] Art3sian@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Spez is out of touch.

He’s forgotten what internet users are.

We are an entire cultural shift away from rule following and shit giving, to a movement of non-compliant Boaty McBoat Faces who will happily bring the whole system down on top of ourselves.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don’t even need a cause. We would literally bring this down for a meme.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

We'd bring this down just because we already dropped 68 others and need one more to complete the set.

[–] hohokus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I doubt he really cares. this whole thing looks like "maintain a minimum viable product" until IPO.

he just wants to get paid, I cannot imagine he will care if reddit burns to the ground after the check clears.

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[–] Mog_Spawn@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Imagine having that much money and refusing to pay attention.

[–] HandwovenConsensus@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only that was still true. Internet users used to be a niche counter-culture. Now they're just normal people.

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[–] SpezHater69@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yes he's burning his platform down

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“We’re not going to change it back, because this is a sexually explicit game, and also fuck them.”

Lmfao I live for this quote.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck corpos and fuck Reddit.

[–] MrD3a7h@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

clears throat BURN CORPO SHIT

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[–] Mikey_donuts@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Imagine threatening VOLUNTEERS. How does any mod with self respect not just quit?

[–] invno1@fedia.io 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I turned all the communities I modded private and "basically" quit but I understand not completely quitting without thinking about it for a long time. I only modded for like 30K redditors but some of the communitites have millions and they got there with the unseen moderation. Mods love their communities and it's really hard to just turn your back on them after you've cultivated real friendships and so much information has been shared. I think it's a little more complicated than, "F reddit, I'm out". They'll get there though, it's just become sooo much harder to actually mod the community you started.

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

@invno1 I have never moderated a community, but can absolutely see this! They moderated, because they loved the community and understood how to do it well. Maybe there are friends too, who you learn and discuss stuff with over the years. An angry user (like me) can "just" leave without many consequences. But a moderator also feels responsible to its community too. So I can understand those who have a hard time leaving. Maybe there was hope that Reddit will turnaround too.

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[–] Koen967@feddit.nl 62 points 1 year ago

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[–] ricecooker@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"We demand the unpaid volunteers that aren't listening to us to do as we say or we will find new unpaid volunteers who will replace you and spend their free time deleting posts and comments!"

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

"Also ignore that fact that it's been two weeks and we still can't find unpaid volunteers for /r/interestingasfuck "

[–] techtalkf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that some people are actually willing to take that offer is both hilarious and sad.

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I removed myself as a moderator and left Reddit.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Good on you.

It was quite depressing seeing how many sub reddits ended their protests as soon as the mods were threatened with being removed from their unpaid positions.

The power and control really does go to some people's heads.

[–] sotolf@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I stayed on the sub I used to moderate, and then when the community didn't want to keep up the protest I left them, I wouldn't really be able to do a good job anyway when the app I used for it when not sitting in front of the PC wouldn't work anymore, so it wouldn't make sense anyway, so rewrote and deleted all my comments, before I did the account itself, and my alt account as well.

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[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Moderators remaining are already showing signs of exasperation. I was mass wiping all my account comments and received a week suspension for 'inciting hate' by an admin for a comment that moderators ignored (it was a comment in a post about an article quoting Putin "claiming the West wanted Russians to all kill each other"). The comment was 10 days old, but apparently editing to replace the original statement with "deleting - because Spez" triggered the admins.

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[–] CharlotteRain@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

What would happen if all of the NSFW subreddits removed theirs too?

I ended up removing the few mods I had, making the subreddit private and the removing myself. We only had like 30,000 people subscribed but still.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or else what? Like give them their life back?

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol poor guys are not even getting paid. I would happily donate if they move to Lemmy and start an instance.

[–] magikmw@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I find it hilarious that the stereotypical reddit power hungry mod turned into the indentured servant hero standing up against a greedy corporation.

[–] ThoughtGoblin@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

The overwhelming vast majority of mods are not power mods and did it because they liked their communities. They're good people who worked hard to make a safe, fun place for others.

When awkward turtle got banned, they were happy too.

[–] Toribor@corndog.uk 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mods might be a bunch of neckbeards, but it's better than being a bunch of corporate neckbeards.

[–] LiquorFan@pathfinder.social 11 points 1 year ago

Reddit mods might be a bunch of power hungry assholes, but at least they are still people, not multimillionaires!

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Most people have no clue what a mod is, so it just becomes whatever people want to imagine.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I find it weird that people fighting for something they built is seen as being power hungry and those trying force them into submission are ignored.

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[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I just decided to abandon Reddit. It’s not worth it at this point with all the bs that’s happened in the past, and now this stuff too - what’s the point.

I’ve been having fun actually looking for new communities and new websites/technologies again. Made me feel like a kid again first discovering message boards

[–] Opacity9850@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even if reddit reverse all their decisions from last 3 months I'll still not go back to it.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah. I mean why would someone? This place is growing leaps and bounds.

[–] Machinist3359@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's really impressive how Lemmy/kbin have totally replaced reddit for me pretty painlessly. Any time Ive checked reddit out of FOMO, the content is far worse, and the comments are horrid.

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[–] Midnight_Ice@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit as a company is just so full of shit. "We're so threatened by the fact that we can't make money off of your subreddit that we're going to threaten you." Like?? All of this could have been avoided if they had just had reasonable pricing for their API. They're just driving themselves into the ground.

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit's entire business model is based on convincing people to do 99% of the community management work for free by telling mods they can run their communities however they want. Then the moment those mods (who, again, are doing valuable work for zero pay) try to actually run their community however they want Reddit says "no, not like that".

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[–] sneezy@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

But if any investors are reading, this is not a big deal you guys. It's just a little, uh, it's gonna pass, you know. The company is worth zillions!

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let me get this straight. They do the work for free, and are upset you took their tools. You then tell them open the subreddits or we open them for you. So they do that, and change some rules, now you're upset and telling them how to moderate their subreddits. Like seriously Reddit. Why not just moderate the subreddits yourself?

You have people who have given you FREE WORK for decades, they have increased the value of your site, and they're justifiably angry, and all you're doing is shitting on them more.

What a fucking joke. I know this won't directly affect the IPO but I hope some companies are looking at this and realizing that Reddit admins have made all of this so much worse.

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[–] Maiznieks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Respect mah authoritaah, lol

[–] skepticalifornia@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm sorry, but any mod that gets a message threatening them like that and stays on has zero self respect. It's a volunteer job for god's sake!

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[–] f1g4@feddit.it 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It was a fun run but sadly Reddit Admins have the only thing that matters now.. power. They will ban everyone in their way and replace them with some puppet or someone who doesn't care about the api fiasco. Most of them will cave in. They have no choice, because they don't hold any real power to attempt a coup. You know who should quit? Users. But they obviously don't care about the cause enough. Imagine if everyone quit for a month ..

[–] voluble@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I care. Charging for high API use wasn't an unreasonable move in principle, just, the details were bullshit and it got rolled out in a totally donkey brained way. But that wasn't necessarily a deal breaker for me in and of itself. I stopped using reddit because of the temper tantrum & threats that the admins threw at mods and their coordination efforts.

And anyway it's death by a thousand cuts. Over time, all these little changes to the platform slowly make it worse for the user. The big social media companies have completely lost touch. They're more concerned with these abstract concepts like engagement and growth, instead of focusing on nurturing a good place for users to be. Well, what do they think? That the users are hostage? That we can't leave?

[–] julesiecoolsie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I hope nobody forgets how the CEO of reddit tried to slander Apollo's creator saying he tried to blackmail them for millions of dollars, and then evidence was brought that showed he is a liar (didn't realize the call was recorded)

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[–] Amazed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s kind of reflective of the world right now - USA probably. Those in power are happily steamrolling the rights of disenfranchised people for money, while said people simply grumble but only change the channel. As long as there’s streaming, they stay in their lane.

Should be out in the streets!

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