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[–] KillaBeez@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Maybe all of those in favor of the protests kept their word and only those who are against it remain?

[–] Appie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don't miss Reddit. I checked some comment sections and holy hell is it toxic compared to here. I think part of that is because of what you've mentioned in your comment.

[–] soulless@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used to work for this major company, biggest in my country by far.

Whether it was going well or poorly, they tended to offer severance packages to "cut back" on their staff, to appease the grotesquely overpaid consultants that analysed their finances.

What tended to happen, was that the most qualified people, who had no issues finding another job (often better paying), took those packages (I took home a one year salary after having worked there almost three, then had two months vacation and started a better paying job), which left those who didn't really have other options, those who did the bare minimum and had a lot of useless meetings.

I guess that's what reddit is heading for. They are alienating those who contribute the most, the content creators, the mods and the ones who like to engage others. They will be left with their bots, lurkers, racists, reposters and porn-spammers.

Good riddance.

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[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

holy hell is it toxic compared to here

I cannot agree more! I went to reddit (wirhour an acc) and just... wow. Did it got worse or was I always blind to how awful that place was?

[–] Ravenzfire@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I think you are seeing some withdrawal symptoms honestly. People are addicted to scrolling for their next dopamine hit. When that's taken away they get cranky. Add the anonymous nature of being online and things get toxic real fast.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I miss my smaller and niche subs. I don’t think I’ve waded into the default subs in a very long time.

Oh well, to everything there is a season, right?

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[–] eselover@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I just switched over to lemmy from reddit, and it is much nicer here isn't riddled with ads and toxicity. I just hope that more users do join over here, since there were a few subreddits/people I followed and would still like to see there updates/posts

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

and you know what? I am happier to be around people that keep their word.

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[–] Alkalyon@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This comment is incorrect as well.

The people that cared left and what's left behind is people that wouldn't leave anyway and the strike only bothers them.

This person is living in a bubble and can't see further than their nose.

[–] CynAq@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely agree.

I believe this was reddit's intention at least in part. People who care were also those constantly exposing their anti-consumer practices and greedy policies. I'm inclined to believe the administration will be pretty glad, at least for a while, that those who get what's happening are gone.

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

we have had the first wave - and its gone well. second wave is incomming on or about the 30th - probably smaller, but no less committed (long term). after that its a war of attrition.

[–] CyanFen@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

unrelated to your comment (sorta), but I just saw your comment update in real time after you edited it. I just thought that's a really cool feature and wanted to point it out :)

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

realtime comment subscriptions are pretty damn slick.

[–] iod@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe this will be gone very soon though once they remove websockets

[–] pproe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

AFAIK this is true. But expect the site stability to be improved as a result.

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[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Yup, it will be interesting to see what happens when the moderation really starts to suffer and subs are more and more full of ads, spam, trolls, and other kinds of problems.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then the third wave when they finally kill off old.reddit.com

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[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say smaller, but I'm thinking a lot of people will realise that their clients actually don't work anymore on that date 😂

[–] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think they're underestimating how many people just won't use the official app. The people who use Apollo, RiF, Relay, etc. are pretty attached.

I know for me reddit is just the app on my phone that I press when I'm bored now. I figured when the app doesn't work anymore I'll just find entertainment elsewhere, which is how I found the fediverse. Now that I'm here the whole concept of decentralized interconnected communities has totally sold me on the project.

The problem with reddit, Twitter, twitch, etc. as I see it is that they're all just trying to profit off their users somehow. That's not conducive to fostering healthy communities of people. I think this whole thing is the future of social networking, take the big corps out of the equation.

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[–] HyperCube@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about survivorship bias as well. If all the people who supported the blackout left Reddit, then the only people left would be the ones who aren't in favour :)

[–] neal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a very good perspective. I haven't been on Reddit since the blackout started. Probably would have gone back as well but the AMA comments were the final straw for me.

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[–] root@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Eh, I used Reddit daily for 14 years, and quit cold turkey. The first few days were rough, but between the feddiverse and inoreader, I'm doing fine.

Sure the communities I left behind were much larger, but honestly the responses I get here are of much higher quality.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Under lots of the "we're back, let's talk what's next" announcements, comments pop up that say basically - "ah well, guess that's it, just use the app, it's great" and they get positive rating, where a week ago they'd be downvoted to oblivion.

I guess everyone for whom this was actually important, has already found an alternative and at most is waiting for their 3rd party app to break.

[–] Micromot@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

As another person already stated somewhere in this thread: Many people probably don't realise how bad getting rid of third party apps really is. Yeah it makes all the things like apollo go away, but it also removes many helpful moderation tools and bots made for fun to like the alphabetical order bot. They just can't grasp how bad that really is

[–] melonpunk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think people are seeing Reddit as their only solution right now due to the lack of awareness of this place. It's been a bit sad to see all the news articles written about the event but very few plugs for alternate options to visit.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

investor class protectng its latest cash-cow.

[–] jake_eric@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've been telling people, the only way this works is if communities migrate somewhere else. Every single blacked out subreddit needs to post their new location on a site other than Reddit. Otherwise people will just stay on Reddit and wait or visit/make new subreddits.

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[–] Lilacwitch17@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I used Reddit because I was bored and watching tv. I barely interacted. I am interacting on Lemmy. There was a lot of angry, toxic people on Reddit. So I am glad they are staying there

[–] DoucheAsaurus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You just made me realize I've been sitting here for two hours in a now-dark room and I haven't turned the TV on yet. Fediverse truly is like the old reddit.

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[–] PixelPioneer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not going back to Reddit ever, too much bs.

[–] Dandroid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have noticed this so much today. I pretty much lived in r/hockey for the past 5 years. They had a vote and decided to black out for the 48 hour protest. Once it was clear that the vote was in favor of blacking out (and that the championship deciding game could be played during the blackout), people started pleading to move the blackout to after the championship was decided, which completely defeats the purpose of the protest.

Well, during the blackout, the championship was decided. Now that it's open again, everyone is again flipping out about how pointless the protests were, and how we ruined their experience of watching the championship game.

[–] yrnst@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm crazy, but I generally watch hockey because I like watching hockey. I feel like you might have a social media addiction if not being able to browse reddit ruins the experience. Crazy stuff.

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[–] Xylinna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This person can suck it. I was a big time Reddit fan (mostly a lurker) but I decided to continue my boycott of Reddit as long as u/spez is in play and even when he leaves they would need to do a lot to get me to go back. The Fediverse still has some work to do with QoL features but overall it is a less toxic world than Reddit and refreshing to take part in. When mlem and other phone apps really get going I think it will really attract a lot more users as a lot of folks are phone only users and we'll see the Fediverse really take hold.

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (18 children)

The fediverse is the way. I’m not smart enough to say if it’s the best option, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a profit driven monolith run by out of touch investors. Reddit won’t implode but it won’t be the same as it was even a week ago. This decentralized structure is what the internet wants to be.

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[–] OhSnapKracklePopped@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t understand. Maybe it’s my adhd and lack of object permanence, but I have been so unbothered by the lack of Reddit.

I bought a plant today. I’ve never bought a plant. I bought cats before buying a houseplant. I’m pretty stoked—and it’s mostly because I was scrolling through Reddit that I got up to do it.

[–] GoochGuardian@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hate the stock Reddit app so much. Maybe in the future I’ll use it on desktop. Third party apps are really the only reason I was on Reddit so much lol

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[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Personally, I like the Lemmy community better. It's definitely possible to find great stuff on reddit (and in particular for news, I think reddit is superior to what I've been finding on Lemmy), but the overall ratio of content : crap is much, much higher here.

Now that I've broken the seal, I honestly am not sure what people are going back to so eagerly on reddit. Maybe just the dopamine of lots and lots of stories and comments to interact with, or maybe they're part of something I don't interact with there.

[–] yankeebobo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

“I’ll stand by you no matter what”

“Wait, I didn’t realize that I’d be sacrificing as well”

Standard motto today with people.

[–] p05@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I noticed that. I have been really had made a comment saying something along the lines of me disagreeing with mods going public after only 2 days and got downvoted like crazy but not three days ago it would of been the other way. Just honestly done with that site anyway so going to download wikis from the subs that come back and be done with it.

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[–] Kachajal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For better or for worse, spez was correct in claiming that this will just blow over. People in general are shit at boycotts, redditors doubly so - there's barely any group cohesion or leadership there.

The people who see an issue with reddit's current behavior have left, the others will just keep going on a much shittier platform. As it has ever been.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Too bad, cause this is WAY better than reddit for my use case. I am interacting the exact same way, only more of what I like. I don't really wanna interact with a reddit hive mind one liner pun. I want to interact with human beings.

This place is pushing the envelope. That's a good place to be imo.

I would go proselytize to draw people in, but I literally made zero human connection there, so all I could do is dump random comments. Nah. Let it happen if it's gonna happen.

[–] valveman@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LMAO, what? Protests ain't fun at all and aren't meant to be. Here in my country, it's pretty common to see public school teachers doing protests and strikes demanding better salaries, then get shot by cops using rubber bullets or get some pepper spray in the face. I don't think they protest because getting shot is "funny", they do because they want a real change for everyone.

Also, the protesters ARE (or at the very least should be) aware of the risks and downsides. If the people you work with decided to make a strike because of something they don't like or agree with in your workplace, they are at least aware they may be replaced by scabs or get fired. Likewise, the mods and users who embraced the protest were aware the community content would be inaccessible and they'd have to find other things to do aside doomscrolling all day.

So no excuses here, people got into this because they really want some changes, and those who didn't either: are Reddit bootlickers; aren't aware of the real impact the API changes are going to make or; aren't able to reach much people without staying on Reddit (here I talk specifically about FMHY and Piracy communities)

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