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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't know about you... But if my country were able to spend 75 billion dollars helping foreign countries, I'd sure hope they'd use some of it to solve problems here at home too...

[–] stella@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Problem is that the more money we spend on social services, the more expensive they become because they're all owned by corporations that are maximizing profit.

Something something 'seize the means of production.'

[–] explodicle@local106.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has that already happened with fire departments? Sure someone is probably corrupt, but they do a great job of keeping my house not on fire for free. I'd love M4A, even if middlemen skim off the top in the short term.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fire departments are funded by local taxes or staffed by volunteers.

There isn't a massive for-profit firemen corporation that controls departments across the US, to the best of my knowledge.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago

It wasn't massive by today's standards, but we did actually used to have for profit fire departments funded by insurance.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US gets to do very real long term damage to a hostile nation without risking any American lives? All while gaining battlefield knowledge and liquidating aging munitions? Sounds like a great investment to me.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yea, FUCK affordable health care and giving teachers proper wages

[–] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funding for Ukraine is not the thing holding those things back. Republican regressive politicians are the thing holding those things back. We have plenty of money to do both.

[–] regul@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah? Are there any Democrats in power pushing to do those things? Or are they only pushing for more war. Neither party gives a shit about pay for teachers or healthcare. All they both want is more bombs and more death.

[–] VulcanDeathGrip@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Are you blaming funding Ukraine for the lack of funding for healthcare or teacher pay? Because I think we all know the $$$ might as well be Monopoly money at this point and the US could fund these things if it wanted.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You spout a popular right wing talking point. It stems from the misinformed belief that governments don’t budget and everything is in one giant pot of money and that governments can only do one thing at a time.

Countries don’t work this way. Your argument is meaningless and incorrect.

[–] Pili@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, affordable healthcare and living wages, classic right wing talking points.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name one other country with that large of a military budget

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Name any other country with that large of a per-capita healthcare budget. The US has the money, it just all goes into the pockets of insurers. Your issues aren't budgetary.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name one instance in your lifetime where Republicans have fought for affordable health care.

You've drank so much USA koolaid that you can't see any other way that a country could possibly be run

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lmao I’m not the person you were arguing with. Take a deep breath before commenting.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Any US aid to Israel should at least be diverted to Ukraine instead.

Israel has the resources to fund their own genocide.

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

President Zelenskyy... if trump gets that close to russia, putin will put him on the western front.

Success will surely come after that considering trump's winning ability.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON, Nov 5 (Reuters) - Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called on the U.S. to provide more funding to help his forces counter Russia, and invited former U.S. President Donald Trump to fly in to see the scale of the conflict for himself.

Zelenskiy said American soldiers could eventually be pulled into a greater European conflict with Russia if Washington did not step up support.

"If Russia will kill all of us, they will attack NATO countries and you will send your sons and daughters [to fight]," Zelenskiy said according to a transcript of an interview with NBC's 'Meet the Press' airing on Sunday.

U.S. President Joe Biden, a Democrat, has pressed the U.S. Congress to pass a $106 billion supplemental spending bill, with the bulk of the money going to bolster Ukraine's defenses and the remainder split among Israel, the Indo-Pacific and border enforcement.

In the interview airing on Sunday, Zelenskiy invited former U.S. President Donald Trump, a Republican, to visit Ukraine and see the fallout of the conflict initiated by Russia's President Vladimir Putin in February 2022.

"If he can come here, I will need ... 24 minutes to explain to President Trump that he can't manage this war," Zelenskiy said.


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