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[-] adrianmalacoda@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

People are going to complain no matter how they try to make money, but this should at least have been opt-in with clear consent. The alternative of course is being beholden to Google search referrals. They can't photosynthesize funds.

Vivaldi, Brave, and their stans are getting their pitchforks ready, forgetting that they don't have to do the hard work of developing an engine because Google already does that for them.

[-] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 years ago

Vivaldi, Brave, and their stans are getting their pitchforks ready, forgetting that they don’t have to do the hard work of developing an engine because Google already does that for them.

I don't know about how Vivaldi works, but Brave stans can shut up. Their ad system is a hundred times worse than Mozilla's.

I mean, I don't like how they went about this either, but considering the alternative of a 100% Google dominated browser space, and the fact that you can just disable it and the base Firefox code is still open source, it's not a huge deal.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vivaldi is closed source. It uses Chromium's base and adds its closed code on top of it and claims it improves security and performance.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/

It’s the Vivaldi brand

The Vivaldi UI is truly what makes the browser unique. As such, it is our most valuable asset in terms of code.

We don’t publish it under an open-source license and only release obfuscated versions of it.

​​If a new project based on our code implements features that are fundamentally against our ethics (damaging to human rights or to the environment in some way, for instance)

Even though most of the security-relevant code for Vivaldi browser is in Chromium, there is some security-relevant code in the UI as well.

TL;DR another privacy grifter

[-] Cloak@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I rarely use closed source software. My exceptions are

  • Windows
    • Because I need to run
      • Photoshop
  • DuckDuckGo (actually good FOSS search engine when?)
  • Vivaldi

Vivaldi just works so wonderful. Once you use it you can't go back (Check out the in browser mail client). I really wish they were FOSS though.

[-] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vivaldi just works so wonderful. Once you use it you can’t go back (Check out the in browser mail client). I really wish they were FOSS though.

It doesn't matter to me how much better Vivaldi works over Firefox or even Base Chromium. TBH, this is just something I'm willing to sacrifice in the name of FLOSS. iPhones and Macs are amazingly user friendly too, but I still avoid them like the plague because of Apple's absolute hatred of FLOSS and especially Right to Repair.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Well, would you not say UX ease depends on audience? I love me a bunch of fast CLI tools on Linux, and nothing comes close to processing thousands of JPGs as jpegoptim. I also like GUI tools. Ease of use is contextual, and in fact a lot of people struggle with Apple devices that are familiar with Windows and Android.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Vivaldi is closed source, and I am going to avoid closed source stuff that acts as a gateway host for me to access the internet.

Windows can be used inside a VM, and GPU passthrough is easy to do with KVM.

[-] nlfx@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

There is something seriously wrong with Mozilla leadership. They keep alienating the small privacy-focussed userbase they have left, and then act surprised when Firefox's marketshare keeps shrinking...

Baker needs to go and be replaced by someone who cares about Firefox long term viability instead of only caring about how many millions more they can add to their obscene salary while destroying Firefox and everything else that Mozilla built over the years.

[-] ChinaNumberOne@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago

yikes sweaty, mozilla's ceo is a proud bipoc trans woman. stop being so hateful

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago

No one mentioned that, at all. Are you another troll account for @SupportTransPeople@lemmy.ml ?

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

My guess instantly went towards the same possible conclusion. I think this person simply knows about what notions Lemmy users hold and is trolling the entirety of Lemmy users for fun (or for revenge as soferman once promised us).

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