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[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

And where is NK getting that material/technology from? NK is building rockets and military equipment since decades in numbers and quality that there is no doubt that chinas hand is in there and using it as a proxy to militarize authorian regimes at will, without getting their own hands dirty. China itself can not send weapons to ukraine without mudding their global stance. But that one weird uncle in the north is perfect as an outlet for military equipment to arm the scum of the earth.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NK is a Chinese puppet state. To put a finer point on your comment.

The stuff they’re giving the Russians are probably just simple Soviet-era airburst or direct-impact artillery shells, nothing fancy like guided munitions. That said, I’d also wager they’re in much better condition than the claptrap shit that Russia’s been pulling from their own strategic reserves, considering North Korea is a hypermilitarized totalitarian state.

[–] Pancito@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in the last decade maybe Russia itself supplied NK and gets back their own stuff now.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

NK and Russia going hand in hand since a long time. Even today there are prison working camps with NK citizens inside the territory of south east russia that do slave work in the wood-working industries. There are documentations on youtube about those camps. Even further back when the US fought against Korea, while in air-fights with supposed Korean aircrafts, there were in some situations with russian chatters on the intercom showing that in those planes were not at all Korean pilots but russian pilots steering their own known machines under the flag of the Koreans. They both work hand in hand since decades. Their despise for humans and human rights is perfectly on par. They both support the same idea of totalitarian approaches to lead their countries where the citizens have no say in the process and can be used and detained at will for the good of a small ruling family/class.

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’d didn’t need to build anything. This is their surplus artillery shells which have become redundant after they developed their nuclear capability.

They already had an ocean worth of artillery shells which they planned to use to hit South Korea within 60 seconds of war being declared. They are giving a portion to Russia because otherwise it’s just sitting around and they’d rather rely on nukes.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I agree only half way. Of course they still have shells from the soviet times that they now gladly provide back to russia. Point taken. But NK is also building "modern" military equipment à la carte. The Documentary "The Mole" showed very well how they do it and what they sell. I do not think that russia only gonna buy the oldest shell that NK has in their depots, but also will equip themself with a bit more modern technology that NK builds in 3rd world countries under the disguise of front operations. The assumption that russia is only going to buy their oldest stock and not a single modern weapon that NK has to build (and use tech from china) is just absurd.

[–] markr@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol. We have enough enemies and wars right now. We really don't have to beat the china war drums.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

No-one is going to attack China. But it doesn't hurt pointing out where they got their dirty fingers in

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's about 3 months worth of shells for Russia.

[–] itstoowet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No mention of them receiving new barrels for their arty, which have been reportedly worn out and not a lot of replacements.

[–] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh the ammo from glorious North Korea will certainly not be sub standard and exasturbate the attrition on the artillery...right?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With their accuracy, probably less.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure they are well made Chinese weapons

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago

All duds, hopefully.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A million sounds like a lot, but remember, this is North Korea we’re talking about. How many of those rounds are made to spec, actually usable, and aren’t duds?

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

More than enough, sadly