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[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 134 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a working theory that Donald Duck comics never got popular in the US because of the ever-present scathing critique of capitalism

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They're not!? Colour me surprised!

Super popular in Sweden, at least when I grew up.

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donald got comics in Sweden that characterized him completely differently than how he's shown in the US. I think he's a much better character there.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donald was always a more appealing character to me than Mickey Mouse because he's so relateable. He has trouble with love and with money and he's impulsive and impatient.
Mickey, on the other hand, is such a nothing-character. He's basically just a brand mascot at this point, with no recognizeable character traits.
And while there are iterations of Mickey that actually give him a personality, it's much less consistent than Donald.

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I don't understand why anyone likes Minnie either. She has exactly one more character trait than Mickey, and it's "girl". Which is just a perfect little example of patriarchy's normalisation of manhood and why the 1900s sucked at writing female characters

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they probably only created Minnie just to have a female character, without thinking about trivial stuff like a personality. Same for Smurfette

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, Smurfette is actually interesting. Smurfs are a single-gender species in nature, but Smurfette was created by an evil wizard to inflitrate the smurfs and help the wizard capture them. So the fact that her only personality trait is "girl" is actually diagetically justified and it can lead into some interesting directions. That said, after breaking free from her programming she has the personality traits of guilt for her past actions and appreciating a new family. So there's actually a bare minimum of depth there and tons of room to grow the story and the character in interesting directions, though unfortunately that promise wasn't really explored because... it's the fucking smurfs

[–] SadLuther@lemmy.kya.moe 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never thought I would read Smurf lore, but here we are.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall them being popular in Germany, too, but yeah, they never took off like that here in the US.

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Disney had (has?) a very strong cultural position in Sweden.

It's a Christmas tradition to watch a TV broadcast of a Disney cartoon medley that started 1960 and is still going strong, the majority of Swedes watch it every year.

Before the dedicated cartoon channels made their debut in the latter half of the 90's, the only time you could watch cartoons where on Friday night, and it was all Disney. It was called Disneydags, or Time for Disney translated.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't think of anyone I grew up with in America in the 80s who read Disney comics at all.

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sweden in the 90's and 00's kids would collect the Disney pocket books like they where shonen manga.

The spines would make a continuous picture and having no gaps where a mark of pride.

[–] kerf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spot on! I looked upon my collection with pride when I visited my parents last time. Even have most of the early ones where only half of the spreads were printed in color

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[–] FedFer@iusearchlinux.fyi 41 points 1 year ago

In Italy, for some reason, Mickey Mouse comics (including a lot of Donald Duck stories) are SUPER popular, Donald's depicted as always in debt, losing any job he can get and going on extreme life-threatening adventures with Scrooge just to get a cent off his uncle's debt list, but nobody uses this to actually think that this might be a real world problem and brushes it off as an exaggeration. Are Italians (including me) blind?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Duck Tales show where he's the good guy did really well tho

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because he was shown to care about a few people he was related to without needing to give up his vast amount of wealth.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

This despite him being named after Ebeneezer Scrooge for a reason. I guess he was post-ghost visit Scrooge.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Funny thing is, I feel like the new Ducktales series is the closest TV representation of the comics-versions of the characters. They change some things (most crucially they give Huey, Dewey and Louie individual personality traits), but overall it really feels like watching the European comic books come to life. Scrooge is still too much of a good guy, where in the comics he's often a kind of villain.

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[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 year ago (15 children)

$310,000,000,000,000,000. Quadrillion is a lot.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Quackdrillion, in this case.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

That’s a ducking good joke.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Now adjust for inflation. The comic was published in 1989. $1 then is $2.48 today. That's a cumulative price increase of 148.22%, or an average price increase of 2.71% per year for 34 years. It is 4:30am, I am on a shuttle bus, and I am not showing any signs of going to sleep anytime soon.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So that motherfucker has almost a quintillion dollars.

What the fuck did he do, conquer Ceres?

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The total of all world assets is somewhere in the realm of $500 trillion. So, McDuck owns around 2,000 times all of Earth's assets combined.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course, he also lives in a world with anthropomorphic animals, so it's safe to assume it's not our world.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ducks don't talk to you?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even when they do, they're not six feet tall and wearing clothes!

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, now the question is which one of us has a problem.

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[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Down with the duck; Ceres belongs to the belters, Beratna

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[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He rounded down the number for some reason. This is how much money Scrooge McDuck has, $315,576,000,000,000,000. That is with leap years included.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Okay what about inflation

Just multiply by 2.48 I suppose

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[–] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

That man is single handedly funding the Disney cartoons universe

[–] Belzebubulubu@mujico.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And today specifically, they did the monster math.

It was a graveyard smath!

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

The government is gonna feel bad for him and bail him out

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Oh no, how will he be able to swim in his coin vault if that happens?

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's with the three circles on his face?

[–] Black616Angel@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

That's social commentary.

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[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

Well, he has a position to uphold; what about future generations growing up with a broke Scrooge.

[–] LEONHART@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

When Russ Hanneman dropped down to two commas.

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