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Is there any reason why there don't seem to be any releases of Persona 5 for the PC? Anything I find is either Nintendo Switch or PS3 packaged alongside emulators. Does it really come down to the dramatic Denuvo cracker not bothering to have a go at this one?

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There is.

Persona 5 Royal has Denuvo Anti Cheat. A immensely hard anti cheat to crack.

The only public cracker that is able to crack Denuvo, refuses to crack Anime-games. Thus it’ll take a long while before it gets cracked.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

refuses to crack anime-games

Aha. There's the context. Thank you.

I took a long break from pirating, but I feel like 10 years ago Denuvo meant nothing and releases were still cracked right away. Any ideas as to what changed that it all comes down to one megalomaniac?

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

From what I have read and heard is that there was one Denuvo cracker who unfortunately got caught and is still in trail. Here’s a article about it:

https://kotaku.com/renowned-hacker-arrested-for-cracking-denuvo-anti-pirac-1827874582 (you could also search up on Google about Voksi).

And the other ones who could crack it were hired by the Denuvo company themselves. Regards this one, the people being hired - that’s mostly speculation. I have not found any evidence of it.

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Denuvo these days is ridiculously hard to crack, the only people good enough usually would rather get a job at Denuvo because its so hard you have to be insane to do it for free. There was also some guy doing denuvo cracks for only football manager games but they retired like 3 months ago.

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotcha, thank you. I also appreciate the implication that the sole existing cracker is insane.

I mean, go look at some Empress .nfo files and you’ll quickly realize that she is… Not all there. She’s good at what she does in regards to cracking, but she also wants to form a cult of personality.

Oh, and she stepped on a lot of toes because she basically flew in the face of previous crackers’ traditions of not taking money for the cracks. Crackers always wanted to stay on a high horse and act like they were only doing it for the prestige and reputation. Then Empress came in, and was like “fuck yeah I can crack anything you want, but only if you fork over the bounty.” Then as time went on, she started getting more and more restrictive on what she would crack, simply because she doesn’t enjoy certain types of games (like the anime games, apparently.)

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The sole remaining Denuvo cracker really and truly IS crackers. The rest quit before they got there.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Good thing is that MKDev has written a complete breakdown of the process, so anyone can pick up from where he left off. The process they used is also impossible to counter.

[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Which is a shame because its a great game.

[–] 520@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That and Persona 5 has very few differences on Switch Vs PC. Framerate is the main one, but it isn't the kind of game where framerate makes a real difference.

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah so that's why it runs like shit.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Runs perfectly (100+FPS always) on my five year old computer, but my partner’s eight year old machine had problems. Ya need more than 4c/4t I guess. New machine with 8c/16t for them and zero issues with the same video card.

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Denuvo probably limits it from its full potential, but the game still runs really well, even on older hardware. Granted, P5R isn't a brand new title but a port of an older one so that prob helps

For what it’s worth I had a good experience emulating the switch version on steam deck. And that’s not exactly top of the line hardware

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

it probably is

I haven't seen one for Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective either and that also has Denuvo, so I have to play the switch version in Ryujinx instead