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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 80 points 11 months ago

There is a prequel to this and the words Israel and Hamas are exchanged.

I'm no supporter of either and I don't believe that killing civilians on either side will answer questions, it will only make matters worse.

As Gandhi put it ... "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth ... leaves a world full of blind, toothless people"

[-] dill@lemmy.one 44 points 11 months ago

As professor Farnsworth once said, "Now, now, perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything"

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Gandhi was a total piece of shit pretending to be one of the good guys. Which I guess is pretty relevant to this conflict.

Also that quote is from Exodus.

[-] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 15 points 11 months ago

yes with all the nukes and stuff, a complete lunatic

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

This guy Civs

[-] masquenox@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

If you think Gandhi was bad, you should look into Mother Theresa - the woman was literally a Disney cartoon villain.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I'm not convinced she wasn't a sadist and got joy from the suffering of others.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago

I'm convinced that she was.

[-] primal_buddhist@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Only the eye for an eye was the bible, the world goes blind was Ghandi.

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

On a long enough timeline everyone is a piece of shit. You on the other hand, are one right now.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Ghandi suxx

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[-] dakku@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Can you like, provide some sources ? I want to read about it

[-] kibiz0r@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Gandhi on Zionism:

My sympathies are all with the Jews.

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But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice.

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Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.

Edit: This was 1938, btw. 10 years before the Nakba.

[-] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 months ago

The post doesn't mention Hamas, it's talking about the previous killings of people in gaza. Not everyone in Gaza is in support of Hamas

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

I want both sides to lose at this point

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[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

Ghandi abused his wife regularly and ended up killing her by way of refusing to let her go to a doctor. I'll not be accepting any of his quotes, thanks.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 7 points 11 months ago

I'm sure you're chillin with Stalin and Lenin quotes tho lmaoo

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[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

Treat people like animals for decades, it's no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago

No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. Israel should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago

"It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time."

We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn't work like that.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

God especially on the internet, can't have any nuance about "well you're right, but that doesn't mean personal responsibility just ceases to exist" it's just "You're as extreme as me or you're on the other side"

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Palestine isn't Hamas. Hamas doesn't represent all of Palestine

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.

Palestine in general being a victim doesn't automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

That doesn't mean you get to glass Palestine. If people really cared about dead babies and a death toll then they would be against Israel doing this.

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[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago

Right, but more than one thing can be true at once.

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 19 points 11 months ago

I personally don't like this "one site bad" thing(in this conflict at least). Of course, in terms of killed persons Israel is the bad guy, but also the things the Hamas did are pretty fucked up. I personally came to the conclusion that both sides are bad, Israel is allowed to defense itself against this brutality but shouldn't take the opportunity to absolutely fuck Palestine again(what it sadly does). I'm not for Israel or Palestine. I'm for the civilists and human rights.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

You have to look at it in terms of power dynamics though. Israel is a uS backed settler colonial apartheid regime that propped up Hamas because they would rather face Islamic fundamentalists then socialist opposition. They're either directly or indirectly responsible for all of the violence.

Only one side could hypothetically end the violence tomorrow.

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[-] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 3 points 11 months ago

I personally don’t like this “one site bad” thing(in this conflict at least). Of course, in terms of killed persons Israel is the bad guy

In terms of killing children, women AND in the most cowardly manner, there's no good manner but they succeed to go beyond that.

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

ESH.

[-] akhial@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Leave home
Go Palestine
"Balfour declaration bitches"
Kick people out of their homes
People mad
"Oh no help meeereee"

Israel isn'treal.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

No, no, it's heroic when Isreal does it

Cause reasons

[-] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 0 points 11 months ago

and my finger got wounded against the trigger!

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