The fact that all western regimes firmly stand with Israel as it commits crimes against humanity clearly shows that the west never cared about human rights. All the western leaders who've been shedding crocodile tears over Ukraine in the past year and a half finally show their true faces to the world.

[+] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Would you give some responsibility to Hamas who uses Palestinians as human shields? Or is it all Israel's fault.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The evacuation order means Israel is ethnically cleansing over 1 million people. Are they all human shields?

This narrative is basically just a hostage scenario. Hamas took a few dozen hostages, so Israel is taking all of Gaza hostage.

And, notably, Israel is the only side actually killing the hostages.

[+] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you would have preferred that Israel had given no warning at all. Just attacked. Interesting. BTW, by human shields I was talking about the Palestinians.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They've also bombed the declared evacuation routes. It's genocidal, and I would prefer Israel not commit genocide.

BTW, Israel is killing both the Palestinian hostages it has captive in Gaza and killing the Israeli hostages that were taken by Hamas.

I swear, Israel could march Palestinians into gas chambers and you'd blame Hamas for making them do it.

[+] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come now. There has been no determination who bombed evacuation routes.

Hamas takes off their uniforms and houses in the same spaces as regular Palestinians. Israel bombs these buildings. Innocent Palestinians die. Popular opinion turns on Israel. They stop, it's happened many times.

You can be as bellicose as you want. Doesn't impress.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come now. There has been no determination who bombed evacuation routes.

Hamas doesn't murder Palestinians. Only Israel does that.

Hamas takes off their uniforms and houses in the same spaces as regular Palestinians.

Uh huh, and every single bombing target was one where a confirmed fighter was sighted? Fuck off, they're flattening everything everywhere and now have ordered a million people to evacuate to their deaths while they bulldoze their homes. Ethnic cleansing.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas does murder Palestinians. Happens all the time. What do you think human shields are for?

No, can't say that every target is right, Israelis use intel to establish targets, and things go wrong. But, it doesn't make much sense to drop a bomb without a good idea there's a reason.

Two things while your carrying all this water. Figure out who in the end you're carrying it for and realize that the bad part hasn't begun yet. Take a walk in everybody's shoes.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hamas does murder Palestinians. Happens all the time. What do you think human shields are for?

Those are people murdered by Israel. This is abuser mentality. "Look what you made me do!"

But, it doesn’t make much sense to drop a bomb without a good idea there’s a reason.

The reason before was to terrorize/subdue the population into submission, and now the reason is to force them to flee or die or both.

Two things while your carrying all this water. Figure out who in the end you’re carrying it for and realize that the bad part hasn’t begun yet. Take a walk in everybody’s shoes.

Take a walk in a Palestinian's shoes who lives under terror from the sky and falls asleep to the buzzing of survelience drones every night. Who barely has enough to eat or enough to wear. Who has to spend hours every day going through security checkpoints. Who has no hope of anything ever getting better. Who has a life expectancy of 40. Who gets their knees blown out by a sniper for marching.

This is what Israel does. And yes, the bad part is only just beginning. When the ground invasion starts the sea will run red with blood, because this is genocide. The European settlers are finally killing off the native population to steal their land. Truly the 51st state.

And then Hezbollah will get involved. And then the US. And then Iran. And then Russia. And then NATO. And then it's WW3. Yay

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -2 points 1 year ago

Try this https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel is the occupying force committing genocide, the fact that you feel the need to try to do bothsideism here really says a lot about you as a person.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

How is Hamas using human shields against airstrikes?

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How exactly is Hamas using human shields in airstrikes?

Are they telling people to stand still while the bombs drop?

[–] btbt@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But Palestinians aren’t rich or light skinned enough for our international law-abiding, democratic, humanitarian government to consider fully human so it’s all good

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't for get also not christian.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago

There are Christian Palestinians, they just ignore them.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Oh no, they invented Judeochristian just for this purpose. Now Jews can be human too!

Notably, that specifically excludes Islam from the more accurate term "Abrahamic" - guess they don't get to be human.

[–] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

There are quite a lot of Christians in Palestine.

[–] CompadredeOgum@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet this number is being underestimated

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're confirmed deaths then absolutely. There's no way the Palestinians have been able to dig through all of the ruins caused by Israeli attacks.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They addressed this in the Hamas press conference - not only do they not have enough personnel to answer all the calls for help they were getting from people trapped in the rubble, but they don't have the equipment to move the rubble, and also it keeps getting bombed so they wouldn't even be able to do much even if they had the people and equipment.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Fuck I hate this

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BUT 40 BABIES THO!!! 😱 😱 😱

Every accusation is a confession.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

34 Palestinian children were killed by apartheid Israel this year before the Hamas action.

I'm 100% convinced that the higher number 40 was deliberately chosen by Israeli propagandists because of that.

"They kill more children than we do, so obviously we're the good guys"

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paywall

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

different link from UN about the statement https://www.un.org/unispal/document/gazas-children-pay-the-heaviest-price-with-hundreds-dead-unicef/

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wonder why you didn't link that in the first place. Could it be the quote..,

"Israeli children being held hostage in Gaza must be safely and immediately reunited with their families and loved ones."

[–] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

How much do you get paid to keep spewing bullshit