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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

" Recalling his love of going to movie theaters as a child, Scorsese also wants these more “serious” films to make a comeback at theaters.

“I’m afraid the franchise films will be taking over the theaters,” he said. “I always ask the theater owners to create a space where younger people would say they want to see this new film, which is not a franchise film, in a theater and share that with everybody around them. So that they want to go to the theater, that it’s something inviting that doesn’t get them to say they could see it at home. Because the experience of seeing a film with a lot of people is really still the key, I think. But I’m not sure that can be easily achieved at this point.”"

So, a couple of things... I said this in a different "Scorsese hates comic book movies" thread and it bears repeating here.

Film needs to compete with what's happening at home if they want people to leave their homes and go to the theater.

Back in the 1950s when film was threatened by television, they responded by widening the screen with Cinemascope, and brightening the color with technicolor.

Now film has to compete with binge watching and home theaters like mine with an 8K screen and 7.1 Dolby Atmos.

It takes A LOT to get me out of the house, especially when 2 adults plus snacks can be $50 or more.

Plus I have to deal with "other people", seeing a film with a giant crowd and their inevitable idiocy is not the flex Scorsese seems to think it is, and I can't just buy a ticket, walk in and sit down, I have to go through this whole process of assigned seating.

I love Scorsese dearly, After Hours is one of my favorite films, but it doesn't demand to be seen in a theater.

Same for Wes Anderson, I went to see Asteroid City and it's a very small film.

When I go to a theater, I want spectacle. I want the 2 hour thrill ride experience. I want to see something I've never seen before.

If all someone wants to make is a tight knit human drama with people talking in a series of rooms, Downton Abbey and Bridgerton are -> over there somewhere.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don’t disagree with any of your reasons for not wanting to go to the theater and you’re not incorrect that the competition is more fierce. But I think what Marty is mourning is the loss of ‘the movies’ as an attraction in and of themselves. And while the theater going experience is awful, it isn’t really awful because of any non price related changes on behalf of the theaters at least in any way I wasnt at one point willing to overlook. Studios don’t back small non tentpole projects anymore because they can’t make money back on DVD sales after streaming killed that market(which isn’t necessary bad environmentally) but it does kill the random “let’s go see a movie” that did exist in like 2009. I enjoy lot of the franchise films the quantity of quality films in theaters today is killing the draw of that uniting 95 minutes where you and 50 strangers go on an emotional experience together. Comedy and horror film especially benefit from that sort of viewing

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great point to make. And maybe he should be celebrating home theatres. It’s my home theatre where I watch the serious drama. It’s the big screen where I watch the explosions.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could argue that modern audiences with their cell phones and talking and general idiocy makes a serious drama in a theater unworkable.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

You could also argue that drama and emotion can be safest experienced at home.

Save the wild action for the arena of the theatre.

[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

seeing a film with a giant crowd and their inevitable idiocy is not the flex Scorsese seems to think it is

Tbf it absolutely can be, you just need the right movie and the right audience.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

After Hours is one of my favorite films

Holy shit, there's two of us!

[–] anonymoose@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I go to a theater, I want spectacle. I want the 2 hour thrill ride experience. I want to see something I’ve never seen before.

Babylon really captures this

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Felt the same way about Greatest Showman.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Does this man even remember being a child? My kids love the fuck out of their franchise films so clearly he doesn't. He's an old man yelling at a cloud. His style of movies are still around, they're just not dominant anymore, and that's ok. But he's getting annoying with all his bitching about the youth and what they're into. And by the way, his films are still good but they're made for old people now, cause clearly he can no longer identify with characters that aren't like 70

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not as pessimistic as he is, but if you actually read the article he's not wrong. He's also not saying franchise films shouldn't exist, but that there should be other choices. It's nice he recognizes he is too old to say where cinema should go, and that the next generation will need to take those steps.

Personally, I think the root cause is that the studios are too risk averse. They only take chances when a vehicle has at least one big name attached, and they rarely give risks the support they need. Further, if one risk doesn't pan out, they assume everything remotely like it won't. Sometimes that one movie just doesn't work out, but others like it could.

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

"Old man yells at [the] cloud"

[–] wilberfan@lemmy.film 1 points 1 year ago