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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

Fuck these genocidal freaks.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm struggling to imagine any rationale that applies here and not to the holocaust, that isn't just pure religion and racism.

[–] ToastyWaffles@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Truly wonderful the conclusions of a rational mind are. If only the world could do the same.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gazans have the right to revolution, just as the Americans, French, and Chinese did.

Condemning violence in revolution is akin to condemning the formation of these countries we have today. Palestinians have exhausted all other options.

[–] GreatWhiteNope@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The formation of these countries we have today is condemnable and it’s exactly what Israel is attempting to do, which is why they must be stopped.

[–] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The silly thing is that, while on the surface it looks like a religiously-motivated conflict, at its core it's a socioeconomic one. The massive gap in economic opportunity caused by the Zionist regime's comprehensive repression of Palestinian rights, the displacement of people from their own homes, and the complete segregation of society was bound to lead to conflict with or without religious motivation.

People blaming religion for this issue are the same people blaming religion for the Troubles.

China's case of Xinjiang shows that massive forced social and economic reform can eradicate extremism without launching bullets and missiles at every person of colour who looks at you wrong.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly, people who pearl clutch at the violence see no problem with maintaining the wretched conditions that cause the violence.

[–] fox@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago

They shot down innocent festival goers. Young people. Killed and raped, and driven around in the back of a truck for display. They even took elderly women hostages.

This is not acceptable, in any sort of way. Never.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

Gazans have the right to revolution, just as the Americans, French, and Chinese did.

The difference is that those were successful in overthrowing the regime. Even at the time of them happening the established regimes across the world did condemn those, too.

I'm not arguing that the Palestinians should not revolt. However if you do, it helps if you deal a decisive blow. If history shows one thing is is that failed attempts at revolution lead to harsh persecution.

If anything this attempt has strengthened the Israeli goverment, where Israelites were finally fed up with the shenanigans of power concentration of Netanyahu and revolting against him, now everyone falls in line, because of this attack.

I'm not disputing the legality, tactically it's been a huge mistake. And the ramifications are horrendous, but I don't think anybody is surprised by that (I must note that I abjectly oppose those).

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So are they going to lift it at a reasonable time (edit: and keep it lifted!), or is the far-right government going to try and starve out the whole population?

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Israel is its own country and responsible for its own actions. Don't drag the West into this just because some financial aid is given.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Financial aid" bruh America is sending a carrier group to slaughter Palestinians

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That there to stop any neighbouring countries getting any ideas.

At least for now anyway

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Getting any ideas about intervening to prevent the full-on eradication the IOF is revving up for.

Yeah. Basically.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

The country was literally created by the West. Wtf are you taking about?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Read a book

Israel exists to be a permanent aircraft carrier for the US, as admitted by the current American President, but go off on how it’s actually its own country 🙄

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago
[–] rolandtb303@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

USA sends on average 3.8 billion a year in aid to Israel. Israel also has a lobbying system in the US to skew public opinion in favor of Israel (the most prominent groups are CUFI and AIPAC), where in certain divisions, Mossad bots spew Israeli propaganda on fake accounts (much like the Kremlin bots).

The government always touts Israel as "our best ally". Not to mention that USA always has unequivocal support to Israel, even if they might criticise them for a couple things. Funny how they support the oppressed while also supporting the aggressor.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Just report as propaganda. It's all this dude does.