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[–] figurine8051@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] figurine8051@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

It shows trackers... what about telemetry connections ?

[–] forked_bytes@lemm.ee 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That line chart should be a bar chart.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Not so important how much telemetries, but where these go. A complex feature rich browser can have a lot of tech telemetries, but this is only bad if these go to sites not related to the functionality and third parties, eg. to Facebook, Amazon and others.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 8 points 15 hours ago

I can only hope floorp and zen devs are ashamed of what have they done. all of those third party domains like discord, x and those mundane ones are totally unnecessary

[–] chirospasm@lemmy.ml 21 points 20 hours ago

Thank you for posting this! I assumed some FF-based browsers, while claiming to remove telemetry, in fact still phoned home to a degree. This is good know!

Also, I was surprised by a few others on the list, like Mullvad, Kagi, and DuckDuckGo, being so straightforward -- not that making fewer connections implies better privacy, as even a single connection can transmit any kind of data, but moreso that there some browsers that are designed to operate with less complexity.

Really surprised by Zen, which is a FF derivative claiming to be all about a 'beautiful' and 'simple' web browsing experience, having a ton of connections.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago

I think a big improvement to these test would be to show what actually gets send. You can do this with a certificate and a proxy.

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Surprisingly Firefox is at 6 percent. I expected it to hover around the 3 percent mark.

[–] SuperZorro@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What is the point of these stats, they could be uploading your entire drive with 1 connection. And some of the connections are there because they bundle ublock, why should that count?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 15 hours ago

It's informative in terms of which parties are basically notified that you started using it. why the fuck does zen load discord, x, bunnyfonts, and whatnot?

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I thought firefox and ungoogled chromium did same job in terms of privacy.

I see I was wrong.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 15 hours ago

well, for one firefox is not a stripped down browser but one with conveniences like push notifications, safebrowsing and other things, while ungoogled chromium is a specialized browser built for those who don't need all that. don't forget also that chrome can't be patched up on many fronts, ublock's dev gorhill has written about them here

that being said, mozilla could make a first time setup page with an option for convenience and another with a menu for selecting which services do you want. but I wouldn't hold my breath

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I was really enjoying Zen browser aswell

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

Sorry to say, but both Zen and Floorp were obvious honeypots from the beginning.

Unsolicited advice, but don't adopt the latest browser/search engine/OS that promise privacy and/or security, and you'll avoid a lot of disappointment. Most fall apart at the seams within a year or less.

If the one browser/SE/OS you currently use works, stick with it until more research on the newer stuff comes out. Then you can reassess.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I uninstalled it after the whole security debacle discussion on GitHub. But the browser was quite enjoyable to use indeed.

[–] PragmaticOne@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Oo ty for this I was toying with the idea of installing it but I guess I wont now :)