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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 134 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Can't start? It's their problem if they can't process your resignation.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. I don't know American laws, but I would submit my resignation by registered letter (I assume there are still doormen to receive those), and if they kept paying me I would put the cash in a savings account in case they ever remember to read the mail and notice they were paying me after quitting.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's not moving from one company to another.

It's moving from the government regulator to a company regulated by that former employer. The rules on government conflicts of interest still apply, and you can't accept a paycheck from a regulated entity while you're still technically employed at the regulator.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"regulated"

"Lol" - Fascist oligarchs

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 days ago

Assuming laws still matter, of course. It is 2025, after all. We're in the age of "What are you going to do if I don't?"

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it would probably be safer just to not cash the check from the previous employer.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's 2025 who still gets physical checks

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I do. Lot of people do. Though you can also remove access to your direct deposit account too. That's the same thing really.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago

The US federal government pays by check?

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the job is in an industry regulated by the fda it can be considered a conflict of interest and normal government employees would need to have that approved by an ethics committee

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Resigned. Not an employee.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

Some agencies have cool down clauses where the person who left willingly can't work on projects for that agency for a period of time after leaving.

I can see this becoming an ethics problem for some agencies.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Until the resignation is processed they are an employee hence the paycheck. It’s an anti corruption regulation otherwise a person could get a job at a pharma company and on their last day at the fda try and push a bunch of approvals through. That type of corruption is reserved for members of congress, president, Supreme Court, and of course the special government employee

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah. Just because they still have you on payroll and haven't pulled your door card and logon does not mean you're still an employee. Resigned is resigned, whether the employer decides to handle their internal paperwork or stop paying you is irrelevant.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m on my phone and don’t have the effort required to make the meme but until it’s processed it’s as official as Michael Scott’s “I declare bankruptcy”.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Forcing someone to be your employee against their will is slavery, right?

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody is being forced to do work… do you know what life was like as a slave and are just being incredibly tone deaf or do you not understand what slave labor actually is.

When you have an oversight position you have to ensure there are no conflicts of interest the simplest method is to say you can’t work for another company while employed in that oversight position. The federal government tries to be even more accommodating and says you can even work at another company as long as you clear it with an ethics office. You are required to sign an employment contract where you agree to those terms if you want the original position.

In order to be free from that contract you need to process a form. It’s really not the most ridiculous thing to ask from people in charge of oversight to have just the slightest anti corruption protections that cause the minor inconvenience of getting paid money to not work…

This also wouldn’t even be a problem if the HR department was properly staffed instead of being recklessly cut as now they can’t handle a single employee taking leave which they are 100% entitled to

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He submitted the form, but nobody will process it and let him stop working for them. It's impossible for him to leave.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The person who processes it is on leave. Shouldn’t people be able to take time off work and not have to think about work while they have time off?

Ideally that department would have an extra employee so the HR rep can go on leave without affecting others. The negative is literally just getting paid not to work which isn’t really a negative and from the taxpayer perspective it’s cheaper to pay a person for a few days that they aren’t working than to have a position that remains underutilized the majority of the time.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure there's no rule against having two jobs, especially if you don't have to go to one of them.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of contracts have an exclusivity clause. So in that case they'd be vulnerable to breach of contract lawsuit.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

They are all unenforcable and illegal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah this whole thing is bullshit.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Wait, I thought dogging was something entirely different.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Legally I think a resignation is valid upon delivery. CCing the new employer on a resignation email that specifies the effective date should solve your friend's dilemma. OTOH if he continues to accept payments it would be an acknowledgement of continued employment - which the new employer wouldn't know about but could be used by the previous employer if there's ever any sort of legal dispute in which his exact end date is important.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the move would probably be to send the letter, begin new employment, and then set aside any further payments they receive from the job they resigned from for reimbursement. On the other hand, have fun with the nightmare of returning the funds to the FDA, and also tax season and...yeah nevermind fuck that.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

set aside any further payments he receives from the job he resigned from for reimbursement

In a sane world the smart thing to do would be to put it into an index fund, but of course with Herr Gröpenfuhrer in charge, chances are SPY tanks again and they'd lose the money

[–] nukeforyou@lemm.ee 58 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Sadly not. Super common, and the obvious result of RIFing everyone without a care for who does what or why. Strategy was apparently on the DEI forbidden words list.

These people have zero idea how the government works, they only operate on "loyalty." Which is simply not having the audacity to speak up when something is profoundly stupid, lest it harm their ego. Everything else is scams inside of scams for personal benefit at the taxpayer's expense.

The pattern repeats over and over. Hundreds of embarassing court cases, constant incompetence beyond anything rank and file government ever did before, blatant lies the only way to save face. Clowns elected by fools to spin up a circus to entertain them all while the crops rot in the fields, with no one willing to harvest them.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My wife had a coworker Rif'd and is in the same situation. It is not fake, this is really happening to real people.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know several people in this category: still employed by the government and subject to government ethics rules, unhireable by any company that still needs to follow that government agency's rules about conflicts of interest.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Hilarious to imagine corporations respecting the sanctity of "conflict of interest" in hiring govt employees, especially in 2025. Think of the optics!

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, I don't think you can be in limbo for more than the statutory 2-weeks notice period or some such.

Still, there's going to be quite some extra cost associated with the heads-over-heels way in which contracts were cancelled.

That's intentional. Bleed the agency to death so it can't operate.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Probably fake, but to be fair, the government isn't exactly following the rules these days.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's in line with what I've heard. People have been commuting to work only to find that they can't get in.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Sounds like Trump & Musk presidency

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Maybe before the Incel in Cheif took over, now that just sounds like a Tuesday

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

When I worked for a state university it was common knowledge that some people stopped showing up to work and have been getting paid for years. Usually they go on medical leave or vacation and just never come back. We had a list of ones we knew or suspected because every time we would do backend changes requiring lists of active employees those people's data would throw wrenches into the system. We weren't allowed to not include them in things because they were still employed

So it could be fake but also the government already doesn't know what it's doing on the best of days and these are not the best of days

[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I can't tell anymore.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I know a guy first hand in the same situation.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If people can secretly work two simultaneous full time jobs, you can work a different job while collecting the paycheck for the job you left but they won't process the resignation for.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently not if one paycheck is from the government and the other is from a company that works with the government.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not works with the government, is regulated by said part of the government. It's a pretty common sense regulation because of the conflict of interest when you could be both overseeing a company and working for it. Same reason presidents before the orange turd have historically placed their assets in a blind trust.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the correction

[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Forwards from Grandma energy

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I TOLD you ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS were WASTING Taxpayer Dollars! But he's WHITE and RICH so I DONT CARE! DEPORT BROWN US CITIZENS INSTEAD!