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What Kinds of Data do AI Chatbots Collect? (lemmy.ml)

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A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points

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[–] lemmycloud666@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Duck.ai

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who TF using Grok.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 11 points 6 days ago

Fascists. Why?

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Most of my workforce strangely enough. They claim it’s the best for them in terms of mathematics, but I can’t find that to be a good reason.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Isn't deepseek better for that?

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

In my experience it depends on the math. Every model seems to have different strengths based on a wide berth of prompts and information.

[–] standarduser@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

That’s what I’m saying!

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Gemini: "Other Data"

Like, what's fucking left!?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Note this is if you use their apps. Not the api. Not through another app.

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not that we have any real info about who collects/uses what when you use the API

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah we do, they list it in privacy policies. Many of these they can't really collect even if they wanted to

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Anyone has these data from Mistral, HuggingChat and MetaAI ? Would be nice to add them too

Edit : Leo from brave would be great to compare too

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago

I'm interested in seeing how this changes when using duck duck go front end at duck.ai

there's no login and history is stored locally (probably remotely too)

[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wow, it’s a whole new level of f*cked up when Zuck collects more data than the Winnie the Pooh (DeepSeek). 😳

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The idea that US apps are somehow better than Chinese apps when it comes to collecting and selling user data is complete utter propaganda.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Almost none of this data is possible to collect when using Tor Browser

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nope, these services almost always require user login, eventually tied to cell number (ie non disposable) and associate user content and other data points with account. Nonetheless user prompts are always collected. How they're used is a good question.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Use a third party API. Pay with monero.

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes it is possible to create disposable-isque api keys for different uses. The monetary cost is the cost of privacy and of not having hardware to run things locally.

If you have reliable privacy friendly api vendor suggestions then do share. While I do not need such services now, it can a good future reference.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago

I think I only used chatgpt once to play around, and it was one of those. I dont remember the name, sorry

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

anyone whos competent in the matter: what about the french competition chat.mistral.ai

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

+1 for Mistral, they were the first (or one of the first) Apache open source licensed models. I run Mistral-7B and variant fine tunes locally, and they've always been really high quality overall. Mistral-Medium packed a punch (mid-size obviously) but it definitely competes with the big ones at least.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Am I missing something? What do the numbers mean in relation to the type? Sub types?

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