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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Violence is always an option.

But...

Violence is not the answer, it is the question. And, when circumstances call for it, the answer is "yes".

[–] saimen@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thats somehow so upside down philosophically. In human history we established states and gave them the monopoly of violence, so that we don't crush each others heads all the time (at least inside the state) or so that some guy who is stronger or has better weapons can't just take all our stuff because he wants to.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 1 week ago

It's like Twitter and other online plataforms, where advocating or talking about violent acts is forbidden, unless you are an army or a government organization.

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes I believe violence is never the solution, but since there are people out there that don’t share my ideas, I need to keep some police officers around to keep me safe and some military personal to keep my country safe.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

To keep the peace it's all or nothing. Nobody has weapons or everybody has weapons. Since the former is pretty hard to achieve, the latter must happen.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does everybody include convicted serial killers?

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[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Violence is only the answer when violence is already employed and you need to defend yourself. Ukraine is allowed to be violent against the aggressor. Police is allowed to be violent against insurrectionists.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But are the people allowed to be violent when the police use excessive force?

...cuz the cops be doing that a lot

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

But do it in a smart way. A single person using violence against someone stronger than him, is dumb.

Something like BLM movement is smart.

Just trying to resist arrest, however angry it may make you, is dumb. Unless of course you'd be sent to gulag. Then do resist.

You need to use power in a smart way to gain the upper hand.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This ideology becomes an issue when someone is finding ways to attack you that don’t quite constitute violence.

People need food, water, shelter, sense of belonging in society, etc. Bigots have gotten very good at using whatever means they can to attack each of these without ever physically throwing a punch; defunding someone’s means of living, evicting them, harassing them, etc.

Ideally, the law, and hence the police (who hold guns) would retaliate on each of these things.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Oh, bullshit.

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Complete the following sentence:

"Live by the sword, ___ __ ___ _____."

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Even if youre acab, violence is the solution sometimes. This is a horrible argument against police. What do you do to nazis? You beat the shit out of them. See you solved the problem of a nazi being in your eyesight with violence. I myself am a fan of reformed police tho which is only used in cases like someone clearly not abiding by the law(not going to court, etc) and imvestigations(which is more like detectives and stuff not police)

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Violence is never the solution, however tolerance should not extend to the intolerant.

If you think a large nation completely dismantling its military would prevent war, you're just an idiot.

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