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I've used most available services, but discontinued one after another along with promises that a better user experience will be provided with reduced content and removed functionality with the slight price hike. YouTube was my first and last video service I paid for, only Spotify remains on the borderline.

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[–] tanka@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Based on the screenshot I assume that you used youtube premium lite (what ever this was...) on your smartphone. Therefore, here the obligatory recommendation for NewPipe. Quasi Youtube Premium as apk. It has all the features you need:

  • no ads
  • you can close the app and your videos keep running in the background
  • you can turn off the screen and your videos will continue to run in the background

There is also the fork NewPipe x SponsorBlock (link to repository) which integrates SponsorBlock into the app. (duh...) This will also skip the creator's ad blocks in the video.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'd also like to plug ReVanced. You do have to provide your own copy of the YouTube APK (easily downloadable from APKMirror), but it allows you to install multiple patches into the app, including Return YouTube Dislike, SponsorBlock, and other stuff. It allows background play and blocks ads, too. (You can see the list of available patches here.)

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[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago
[–] beSyl@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I wish new pipe had a "save" feature. I like to save videos for watching later or whatnot. I am making do with a playlist called "saved" but still...

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[–] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"To show our appreciation, we're offering the same one-month free trial of our new subscription that we offer literally fucking everyone."

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Well I was not a high paying costumer, I just went for the lunch and didn't give any tip. Assumed that it was good enough to pay for the basic service.

[–] gveltaine@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

The one month is what got me. A whole one month

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These companies are really shooting themselves in the foot with this shit.

[–] NutsGate@feddit.nl 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, to show our appreciation for being a paid member here's a one month free trial that we give everyone regardless.

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Yes it's a joke but I have the option to just leave, worse would be if you are dependent on the platform in some way.

I don't see why companies should show you any appreciation except what you pay for or what you are given in return for your services, it would be nice but I do not demand it.

If you don't like it, leave it, or make a plan you can ditch it.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is Lemmy, you can swear here. Don't be afraid to say 'What the frak'.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My mother taught me that it's fucking impolite to say "what" in mixed company

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Huh?" is a solid alternative. Especially as a single word reply on forums. /s

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

it's just after 10pm, which means you can drink if you want, and we can say whatever the hell we want

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

frakking chrome toasters

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[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't include YouTube Music. It was also offered in a few select countries.

[–] hogart@feddit.nu 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

You don't want YouTube + YouTube music but you want Spotify + YouTube? I abandoned Spotify the second YouTube Premium was introduced in my country. I loved Spotify. I started using it back when it was invite only. YouTube Music is worse for sure, but it's good enough and a lot cheaper.

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An easy answer, Spotify are where my friends hang around. I would not have any second thoughts to drop Spotify, but for me I love to share playlists, tracks etc with family and friends.

As general nobody use YouTube music here in Sweden.

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[–] ScrewdriverFactoryFactoryProvider@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have held a vendetta against YouTube Premium for nearly a decade. I will never use it. I don’t give a shit how cheap it is or how many features they take away. I will stop watching YouTube entirely before I pay a single cent for Premium.

You used to be able to lock your phone on iOS and continue listening to YouTube. I always had audio playing, but I was still connected to my environment. They took that away just so they could add it back in as a feature in Premium. Maybe it seems overly petty to be this upset about it 9 years later, but I don’t care. I’m a treat addict and they fucked with the product. I let go of most things when it comes to enshitification because the alternative is to drive yourself mad. But this is a hill I will die on every time forever.

Fuck YouTube Premium.

[–] Zap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

Yep. Same reason I will never pay for it and I point this out to anyone who has it. They simply created a problem only to sell the solution. Scummy to the end.

[–] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who has worked on free Internet services, it used to be easier to make money from ads. A video ad view was worth nearly a dollar US. Audio ads were maybe 7 or 8 cents a listen. Now, a video ad view makes a few cents and audio ads are worthless. They likely did the math about how many audio ads they'd have to play on the phone in your pocket to break even and decided you'd hate it more than they would. Since content owners get just over half of what YouTube makes, they'd probably be pissed about seeing the drop in income too.

Feel free to hate YT. This was an economic decision at around the time when ad revenue had just fallen off of a cliff.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

tHesE bEaTinGs aRe ActUalLy to HelP U

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is stupid. Kick out a customer? Guess €0 per month is better than €7

Greedy fucks

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I do not understand the position where companies first provide a good service and and than later reduces the experience and functionality. YouTube especially, when they are providing a platform but not the content.

Their AI would easily see that I more or less gave them free money since I wasn't a high consumer putting any load on their data centers. I paid to remove the worst ads around to just see a few trailers and videos for the kids.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I do not understand the position where companies first provide a good service and and than later reduces the experience and functionality.

Twitter has taught us that the vast majority, once committed to a platform, will tolerate endless abuse and never leave. So companies treat you real nice to get you in the door so they can piss all over you later.

Do a search for "embrace extend extinguish" to learn more.

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[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why pay for that shit in the first place? Just use YouTube Revanced and install Sponsorblock while you're at it.

[–] Kodama@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe one should pay for services/content to promote costumer needs, put your money where your mouth is. But people need to stop being obsessed to always see the latest and greatest movie, sports event, concert etc. The business model would fall and it would force change but that will not happen on this 3rd planet.

In this case I just wanted to remove ads the few times I opened the app without the hustle. Conviniance easily beats piracy, even quality will take a hit.

I pay for mullvad and Proton since I like the service they provide and I encourage people to do the same.

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[–] eee@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes you would pay for convenience.

In its golden years, I happily paid for Netflix because it had literally everything I wanted and it was easier than torrenting everything.

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[–] lukini@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Some of us like to give back to the creators we watch in the easiest way possible while not seeing ads.

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[–] Mandrew002@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago
[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They offer 1 month free to show their appreciation? Dont they offer 1 month free to literally everyone? You just open youtube and you are bombarded by "try youtubr premium free 1 month".

Such bullshit "appreciation". This is insulting.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend a trip to India (VPN) for buying YT premium. Together with family I got my monthly price to approx. 1$

[–] DNOS@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

🤔mhh that's interesting how does it work in details ... Did u have to always connect from India then ? What else could I apply this trick for ... ?

[–] BilboBallbins@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

In addition to Newpipe, there is Freetube for desktop: https://freetubeapp.io/

[–] focalors@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fortunately there's newpipe and libretube, though the latter feels like regular YouTube app.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

or just use sth like revanced if you just want to continue using the official app

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[–] Patariki@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I bought premium lite because I often watch youtube on my TV which just has a better bitrate compared to using my web browser. Is there any way to get that better bitrate without paying for the full premium?

As i see this post is getting downvoted, don't think i like paying for it. There just wasn't a feasible alternative for what i wanted. Downvoting questions like these isn't helping, it's just bullying.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

good riddance. I ended mine when I realized how aggravated I was at paying for a service where I couldn’t specify a global resolution of 480p for mobile, and the auto-choices they provided always set me at 240p or 1080p, which either looked like shit or wrecked my data cap. If I have to micromanage the res per video, I’m just using uBO to block ads for free, and don’t watch YT on any device that doesn’t let me use it.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube ReVanced supports setting a default video resolution for mobile and wifi networks.

But make sure to only download from the official site or their github. The top search engine results are not be trusted third parties.

https://github.com/revanced

https://revanced.app

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

"If these bozos are willing to pay for some of Youtube, they'll probably pay for all of Youtube"

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I get the same premium experience with free firefox adblocker

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

straw-hat-pirates

Time to set sail

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