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And I hate their blue-rich eye searing headlights to.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I dunno. I had to drive a truck over the weekend, to move 3 cords of wood. I rented an F250, which is a big truck. It was useful to have; there's no way that I would have been able to move that much wood with a smaller truck and trailer, and, if my driveway wasn't so tight, it would have been nicer to rent a larger dump trailer (I'm pretty sure that I was over the maximum load rating on the trailer for each trip).

...But it's not a fun truck to drive. Power is slow compared to the compact car I usually drive, and very slow compared to my motorcycle, steering feels sloppy, brakes are feel mushy, fuel economy is terrible, and it was so goddamn big that I had to drive very carefully to be sure that it wasn't over any of the lines on the road. Aside from the ability to move a very heavy load--greater than a ton--it really doesn't have much of anything going for it. I can't imagine why most people would want one, compared to a vehicle that allows them to react quickly.

...Or compared to functioning public transit.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Two things: First of course is one simply must have a nicer, bigger, more powerful truck than that guy.

The second thing is no, that F250 you rented wasn't comfortable. You most likely rented an F250 XL. The XL trim is the lowest, meanest, least comfortable version of Ford's trucks. The people who need their brodozer status symbol drive the fancy versions that have the soft carpet, power windows, leather seats, and a bed cover because lets be realistic, that truck bed will never carry anything more than groceries.

I have an F150 XL that I bought used. It was a rental truck from some hardware store called "Menards". It has no carpet, no power windows, no tint, steel wheels, no extended cab, no crew cab, no CD player, just a bench seat and an 8ft bed.

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[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

When I worked at a bank not too long ago I got to drive the company car once and its one of those van sized 3 row SUVs with a truck bed's worth of space (probably a full 8 feet!) when the third row is folded down and holy cow that thing handled like a boat, accelerated poorly, breaked really hard and had a super disconcerting glide to the suspension.

I had to go pick up some packages for my department that the post office had said were a lot, but it turned out to just be like one seat's worth of boxes, so i couldve just driven my own car and expensed the miles, so it was a waste of a trip for that giant boat

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

I think this is USA only. Maybe mention that in the title. They don't sell half of those cars here.

[-] cestvrai@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I wish. More shitty American pickups in the Netherlands each year, further encouraged by a tax loophole.

I hope the gas prices bleed these fuckers dry…

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

It’s the same in Australia. Tax incentives given to businesses during the pandemic mixed with a large influx of yank tanks available on the market means that there are heaps of these monster trucks getting around. I honestly don’t know how they cope, the roads and parking around here aren’t designed for such large vehicles and this is out in the countryside; I can’t see them fitting in narrow city streets.

[-] Countsheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I’ve seen Trucks more often in Sweden as well as other SUVs. The most common car used to be a station wagon of some sort but it seems to be more compact suvs now too

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That is primarily a US problem. Here, a pickup owner is either a gardener or an excentric.

[-] Rambi@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That's true in the UK too, but SUVs sadly are quite popular

[-] ThePac@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

It's an arms race to not die in a car crash.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Story time. I was going back home yesterday when I saw this lifted F250 tailgating a Chevy sedan for going 5 over the speed limit (clearly the pickup wanted to go faster), so I can guarantee you that the Chevy driver will get something bigger if they can for their next car because having a monster truck right behind you seems t scare the shit out of most people so they feel safer in a larger vehicle.

I can't even bother to give a shit if that were happening to me.

[-] Ignisnex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in your camp for sure, but I can certainly understand the feeling of needing something bigger to protect yourself too. Those massive trucks driving like idiots are a safety hazard. That, and the fact that when your face is at bumper level, if something happens, no matter how correct you are, you're still going to be pulling your teeth out of their fog lights.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Even if we can't ban cars everywhere, there should at least be restrictions on the bumper height of a vehicle as well as the headlight height. I know here in South Carolina, they just banned modified trucks called Carolina Squats but lately I've seen more of them (because "fuck the libs" or whatever), but the punishment is a ticket, they need to be impounded and the plates only returned once the modifications are removed and pass a safety inspection.

[-] Marzanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I think that compact SUV is an optimal car. It is not too big (sized like a normal car), it doesn't consume too much fuel, you can drive to the countryside (with light offroad) and it has enough space for some load and passengers feel comfortable. It can have AWD but I think that differential block is more important than AWD.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

There is no such thing as an optimal car, there are less wasteful cars. 99% of the time it will only transport a single person.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hatchbacks and wagons are cool for similar reasons, but they are barely a thing over here, sadly. At least we got a couple offerings from VW I guess.

[-] skellener@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Unless you work in construction, or have a similar need for a pickup, fuck you for buying one.

Here's a fun anecdote: I live in California, where these vehicles are (mostly) limited to those who need them. In 2018, I visited family in the midwest. We played a game of counting the pickups while walking a short trip from a hotel to a chain outlet. We hit 99 pickups by the time we got to the doors. I was irritated that we got to 99 and not 100 cause that would have been so awesome, but seriously. 99?! In just several minutes. People drive them for fashion, not for practical need.

Every pickup driver that doesn't "need" a pickup is my enemy.

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[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Within the "truck" class of vehicles, EPA fuel efficiency standards are based on weight. It's easier to build heavy trucks and SUVs that meet those standards, than light trucks.

Effectively, the US government legislated heavier trucks and SUVs.

Video that explains it.

[-] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Well, we needed a vehicle that could fit two children and related sports gear and, ideally, haul bikes at some point, and the had the cargo capacity for the yearly road trip vacation with the extended family. A small SUV was the winner as no car measured up and a true truck was overkill.

Shocking though it may be, for many, the use case may be valid.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

the yearly road trip vacation with the extended family

For a once a year event, renting is almost certainly cheaper than using a larger vehicle you don't need for the rest of the year. Another option is driving two vehicles during the trip.

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[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Stop buying bigger and bigger cars.

I drive a station wagon because I need to fit two dogs in the booth plus and entire family in the same car. But this is a transitory need. At some point I'll either get a small van, for carrying the dogs, or a small hatchback and have the backseats always folded down.

You should buy according to your true needs not market pressure.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

" everyone should do thing!

But not me, I have a particular circumstance that means I need to exempt myself from the logic!

I plan to stop in the future but for now am certain!

"

Everyone buying these cars has some reason that matters to them. They all believe they need it.

Myself included (similar reason, dogs, kids, family out of state that we need to help often), but I have no illusions that I took the dirty way.

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[-] enki@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Or buy whatever the fuck you want, because why not make one part of your miserable life slightly more pleasurable by driving something that makes you smile. In the US, 99% of us need a vehicle to commute because we don't have access to decent public transportation, so why not drive something you enjoy? Do I need a 500hp Mustang to get me to work and back? Hell no, but it sure does turn that commute into a few precious moments of happiness before I start the 9-5 grind.

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I am the world's last sedan enjoyer.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I saw a truck with regular old halogens the other day and it still seared my retinas. Fucking hate how tall every vehicle is now.

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