I don't think there should be a big push until more polished apps come out that make the whole process as dead simple as possible. No need to know what instances are. Right now this is how imagine the average person would react after trying it out.
this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023
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Oh my god, lmao. Yes. How is there even a video so perfect for this situation. I joined kbin instead because having a website demand I pick an instance in order to even sign up when I barely understood what that meant or how they worked was quite genuinely making me panic, and taking my time with it was not helping like it was supposed to.
It's so normal to me now that I almost forget until I have to explain any part of it to someone. "Oh, don't worry about joining this one over that one, you're technically joining every site and also twitter and instagram. That button? It's the reblog button. It functions as an upvote but some people don't have it. Other people don't have a downvote, but it might still be visible on your screen anyway. If there's a site you hate, you can mute the whole thing, or maybe you can't. If there's a site you love, your admin might disappear them and you'll need a second account to see it again. Have fun!"
Horrible. Why do I love it.
It's never a good idea explaining the whole idea to someone right at the start unless they ask.
I've always just directed people straight to a big instance with lots of home communities, like lemmy.world or kbin.social. After they jump in and have questions, that's the right time to talk about instances, not before.
There's even a scene talking about decentralized internet which is so perfect for this attempted push to the fediverse too.
haha. I just got through watching Silicon Valley. Great show. Y'all should check it out
More polished apps and more fleshed out features. Lemmy has potential, but there are so many quirks right now it's like a chore to actually utilize.
Yesterday I searched a question and for the first time google linked a Lemmy thread with the answer.
Asking and solving questions will bring users.
This. The reason I originally joined Reddit was because it solved a problem I had (easily aggregating answers on various topics). That's how we get people on Lemmy.
How does someone search Google?
Using a browser, navigate to the following URL: www.google.com
In the search bar, type the query you would like to make and hit ENTER
Then you're done!
Thanks!
You forgot the step where you have to scrolls to at least 2 pages of ads disguised as results
Step 0: install an Adblock like UBlock Origin on your browser.
How do I install an adblock?
D: demonstrate interest in a topic by communicating it clearly around your phone.
E: engage with ads in the same vien as the question you're looking for.
N: NEVER use an AdBlock. This throws off the algorithm as it can't track how long you take before scrolling past an ad.
N: News. what news do you engage with? Contrary to expected behavior, google actually spends more resources trying to sway dissent from their opinion more than it rewards its supporters! Talk about breaking up monopolies, talk about tax havens, or even bing.
I: Invest wisely. Have money in the bank. They'll know. The more money you have the bigger fish you are in the pond. The more they'll target you.
S: Search. Go to google.com, they have a bar you can type in. Put in your question, hit search, and if you follow these steps, you'll get what you were looking for.
Yes it will because I used to search questions and add reddit on the end
Something that will also help is users sharing knowledge through posts and comments and communities with knowledgeable people migrating here along with subreddits that contain a lot of knowledge because I also loved te community knowledge aspect of reddit and that will bring people as well
I think everyone needs to wait and see what kind of migration happens after July 1st. Seems like these places are better suited for slow growth from my observation.
We've got a good "seed community". We need to move on from "anti-Reddit" and towards "Lemmy-community building". This is a hard step forward.
We don't know what each other's interests are, we don't know how many #RedditBlackout communities existed (I mean, we have some ideas. "mtgzone.com" and "programming.dev")... but we don't know if we can create say... an Advance Wars community (Nintendo Game), or if we need to stick to just Nintendo as our topic.
I think keeping to !Newcommunities, and trying to organize ourselves into our different branches of knowledge / discussion is the near term goal. What DO we have as a community? Clearly we're all willing to leave Reddit (and some of us here were willing to leave Reddit last year, long before #RedditBlackout), but for long-term sustainability, we need to get deeper connections than that.
Ideally, we can grow some of these communities to be the best place on the internet for that subject. For example, /r/Factorio was one of the premier places to study Factorio strategies (Video game). But Reddit wasn't the best at say, AVR (AVRFreaks was a better site for that). That's fine, having a 2nd tier or lesser site is still useful for an overall hangout spot that's more casual.
I think Lemmy has a lot of opportunity in community building because of its Reddit-like structure (more similar than Mastodon was to Twitter). With some custom GUIs, we can build new video game communities with custom GUIs (ex: Chess .pgn viewers: https://github.com/mliebelt/PgnViewerJS) to further discussions in ways impossible to the original Reddit (more akin to PhpBB), but still with the advantages of single-sign-on / federation to join up a bunch of other communities.
That's the direction we should be going, IMO anyway.
Yea we need to all start engaging content we like as if it was reddit. There will probably be another influx of new people come July. As such we need their first impression to be that lemmy has an actual community beyond being burned by reddit.
I kind of agree, but it needs to be done in a nice way like if you have already written an answer on lemmy to a question which also shows up on reddit then post a link to it instead of copy and pasting it there.
I like this, sharing when there’s value to share, rather than just sharing
An iOS and android app would be helpful in making lemmy more accessible
I’m using Memmy, whose UI is inspired by Apollo. It’s not perfect, but functional and looks great! You can use it through TestFlight
Memmy is my vote as well. It’s actually wild how quickly it’s come into shape
The developer is an absolute beast. Homie has been pushing 2 to 5 major features releases a day.
Folks at memmy@lemmy.ml are actually starting to get concerned and are telling him to take a break 😆
Memmy is so good! New features are being added so quickly it's like opening a present every day I open the app
Lemmy already has a few apps for Android like Jerboa,Connect for Lemmy,and Liftoff. IOS has mlem and probably a few more. They're not yet as good as reddit TPAs but they're there and being actively developed.
I think it's kbin that needs an app rn as it's growing rapidly and the only app i know for it (Artemis) is still in alpha.
Memmy for iOS feels a lot like Apollo so far and it’s getting at least 2-3 updates per day. It’s still in beta so you need to get it via TestFlight, but once it’s downloaded it feels just like any other app. To me, it has far outpaced Mlem even after just 23 days since its first beta release. Here’s the link once you’ve downloaded TestFlight: https://github.com/gkasdorf/memmy
Artemis is another one that’s in development and heavily influenced by Apollo (hence the name). I don’t think it’s available yet in beta but the preview images from a few days ago look promising.
This Beehaw post of useful links seems to maintain a list of apps and their development stages: https://beehaw.org/post/683217
I've been posting to my work slack.
On Android, link people to Sync for Lemmy, and Jerboa which is quite similar to RIF.
And Memmy for Lemmy heavily inspired by Apollo on iOS.
People mad about apps will move; they can't if they don't know where those apps are going.
Best marketing is the perfect use case that didn't exist in people's lives beforehand. The Reddit threads with nurses helping elderly people do AMAs were extremely endearing.
Young kids being able to shitpost nonsensically was also cool.
Make something original happen and it draws in people that recognise something new. Otherwise it's all cats and homies doing narrative subscription.
I am kinda missing my favorite communities from Reddit:
- vinyljerk
- blackmetalvinyl
- lolgrindr
- vinylreleases
- PublicFreakout
I wish those will receive a counterpart one day or just move here.
One of the few small communities I’ll be sad to lose is HyruleEngineering. Can’t believe Reddit decided to shit the bed right when I found it.
!hyruleengineering@lemmy.world
Someone recreated that community here!
For what it’s worth, they also have an active discord server
I don't really get discord. Does everyone just kind of talk at once? Like a giant group chat instead of topical threads?
Lol. I get that. I’ve felt the same way but I’m trying to find a good place for communities and that was one venue I was playing around with.
What I'm missing are the fintech/trading subs that were pretty active. Not just meme-tier junkfood like wallstreetbets, but actual strategy/implementation stuff like ThetaGang and AlgoTrading.
The thing is, I haven't found that stuff on Mastodon either. AFAICT the Fediverse at large leaning hard leftist/progressive means there's a cultural bias against finance-adjacent topics. Bolstering this, I've encountered on various Discord servers that traders tend to be pretty largely right-wing, which has consistently put me in direct conflict with them.
Could you please add a "Why YSK:"? It's rule #2. :)
Sign ups in many instances becoming application-only certainly does not help Lemmy grow.
Which instances are doing that?
Also, why would it matter? Lemmy is absolutely going to end up with some domains that are mostly hosting and some domains that are mostly reading / commenting. I don’t see why that’s bad as long as the infrastructure for the hosts can handle it.
I'm happy with the amount of users and activity Lemmy currently has. It doesn't really need go grow though any means other than organically imo.
Eh, it's still missing a ton of smaller and even medium sized communities. Pick video games and TV shows for example. A bunch don't have a community or only have a dead one with zero or one posts.
It's debatable whether a lot of these smaller communities really provided much value outside the tiny userbase they have.
Besides, if someone wants to pick up the mantle on Lenny they are more than welcome to as well.
I don't follow what you're saying. I love the shit out of many of my smaller communities. Reading TV subs after a new episode dropped was my favourite (and required a lot of active people). I wanted to discuss the Horizon DLC when I beat it the other day, but the Horizon sub here is super tiny. I tried to post on a generic gaming sub instead and did not get the discussion I wanted.
Similarly, Pokemon Go subs on Reddit were super detailed places to discuss the game, including with detailed analysis of any change, data mining for upcoming stuff, etc. Here, there's two subs that have just the sub creator trying to populate the sub. No actual discussion.
It sucks and I miss those kinda communities.
What I'm saying is that while tiny communities are great, the fact that they haven't moved to a federated platform yet doesn't really matter. Anybody, including yourself, can start up those communities on the Fediverse and curate them if there is enough of a reason to do so or just continue to engage them on Reddit too.
It's really hard to get them started though. Especially when I want a discussion on the topic now. I actually did try and start my local city sub and it was me shouting into the void as the only poster. It's not very fun posting stuff without ever getting replies.
Yeah indeed, discoverability is lacking in Lemmy at the moment.
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