I regret nothing. Say what you want.
Edit: I just saw the two typos. If you find them, you're welcome to keep them.
i've programmed in edlin. so there.
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Man I just use Notepad or IDLE most of the time, I feel you man
And then there is a colleague who programs in Notepad++ directly on the test server and then just copies his code to prod.
(yes, he works alone on that project)
What about people, who just burn the machine code directly onto a CD with a laser?
I do it in nano over ssh. The shortcuts suck but it gets the job done.
You can enable modernbindings in nano to get standard shortcuts like ctrl-s for save.
Yep. Fancy devs watching me coding some Rakulang in nano 😂
doesn't vim come with the Ubuntu installation?
Learned C++ by using gedit on the Sun machines in my college's computer lab in 2007. They were decommissioned shortly after I graduated.
At one of my jobs around 2010 there was a dev in the office who wrote all his code in Notepad. When I joined the staff they were still using Classic ASP. My job was to help them (finally) migrate to ASP.Net. He intended to develop .Net apps in Notepad rather than learn how to use VS. I got laid off due to cutbacks and never found out what kind of luck he had wit dat.
Vim and emacs are text editors.
Vs code is a code editor (but really it's also just a text editor)
Maybe they mean IDEs like visual studio?
I've never really heard it called a coding GUI before.
I never quite understood the massive hard-on programmers have for splitting hairs.
Vim (and NeoVim) are as much coding environments as VS or JetBrains. The difference is in the defaults.
I see you've never used emacs.
"it's a bit limited for an operating system"
So an IDE is a code editor that ships with an LSP server, not just an LSP interface? (Doesn't have to be LSP as such but "stuff that an LSP server does").
I would say that an IDE is something that includes build/run tools integrated into it. Everything else is just a text editor. (But that's just my opinion of course)
To expand on my point, I don't think it makes sense to call vs code an integrated development environment if it doesn't actually have the environment integrated.
Visual studio and idea would be examples of IDEs, they actually have all of the tools and frameworks needed to run the languages they were built for out of the box.
You can't run node or python out of the box with just vs code for example, without their respective tooling, all vscode can do is edit the code and editing code is not functionally different from editing any other text.
So I maintain that both vim and vscode are text editors and not IDEs
Vocode integrates consoles for whatever you want. I use node and sql all the time.
I'd say build and run tools are pretty integrated into vim. Type :mak and there you go, it's not like vs studio would be a single process either.
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I genuinely do a lot of coding in Kate, the standard KDE editor. It's enough to do a lot of things, has highlighting, and is more than enough when you just need a quick fix.
I am also still using nano when editing stuff in the terminal. Please, don't judge me.
To be fair, Kate isn't just a text editor, it actually is an IDE. The text editor version would be kwrite, which would be horrible to program in.
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At uni I did a lot of my Java coursework in notepad, then I’d have to take it into a computer lab on a floppy, tar it and upload it to a unix terminal so it could be emailed to the professor. Java syntax with only the command line compiler is not fun.
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