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I threw away Audible’s app, and now I self-host my audiobooks - Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I knew it was gonna be Audiobookshelf as soon as I saw the headline. Great software. My wife has all her books hosted on it on our NAS, and it barely takes any resources. I have it hosted alongside Plex in a VM on a teeny tiny Ryzen 5500u Mini-PC.

Edit - I'm even more amused that I have almost the same configuration as the article author, Proxmox server hosting the guest, just mine's an Ubuntu 24.04 server VM instead of LXC. That little server hosts Plex, Audiobookshelf, Lyrion, and AssetUPnP, pretty much handles all my media stuff, plus a separate Home Assistant VM, and has resources to spare.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Reminder that "self hosting" media is an extra step, you can do the same with "saving media locally and playing it"

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

That's great, until you want to switch devices while still keeping your progress.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But how will I bring up my NAS in conversations at parties?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Tell them you'll bring the music but instead play books at them during quiet times...lord of the rings anyone?

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

what is thisyarty thing

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The author actually explains that his original solution was just saving them locally on his phone and playing them from there, but that was too much legwork for his wife to want to switch from a cloud service like Audible. So the whole self hosting part is to become “Audible” for his wife lol.

[–] Ansis100@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel like the answer to the question "why are you self-hosting" is almost always "because my significant other/family/friends use it"

[–] UberMentch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

One of the big draws for me is the scrobbling, across a lot of my self-hosted apps. Comics, shows, books, whatever. I love that I can watch some of a show, or read some of a comic series, then go months without worrying about where I was before picking it back up again. I can pick up where I left off, which is one area where simply having files on a file-system falls short.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And it's a valid point. Services like audible and Netflix offer something that can not be matched by traditional storage, that's why they are profitable to begin with. Streaming content instead of downloading it to each device is a good selling point, one which is covered by self hosting this stuff.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 84 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Shoutout to Libation, that allows you to download and deDRM your Audible library.

https://github.com/rmcrackan/Libation

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Oooooo, but there be dragons.

Documentation? Yer lookin' at it This is a single-developer personal passion project. Support, response, updates, enhancements, bug fixes etc are as my free time allows I have a full-time job, a life, and a finite attention span. Therefore a lot of time can potentially go by with no improvements of any kind

[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually good for the developer. He is doing it out of his passion and faith in OSS. What more should we want of him? The dude is already a hero.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's just a warning not to get into it unless you're capable of helping yourself.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's true of all self-hosting.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

In my experience, that's just true of all software. There's a couple of high end InDesign plugins I use for work. Aside from that, I'm on my own.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

De-DRMing audible audio books and self hosting are not inextricably linked. I just wanted to repost it to make sure people saw it before diving in.

The origins of the phrase "here be dragons" is one of placing a warning of caution on an unexplored area of the map. It says nothing negative about the developer.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago

It's good they put it up front though. There can be a lot of entitlement with oss users sometimes and setting expectations can help alleviate that.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

You don't really need much documentation. You set it up on windows once, which is pretty intuitive and then you copy the config to your server and run it headless. It pulls your library in fixed intervals. I haven't touched it once in the year it is running now

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It works now, even if later he gets tired of it and walks away it still works now.

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[–] suite403@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Awesome.

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[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

In addition to self-hosting, I'll throw out a few other alternatives:

Free:

Paid:

  • For a user experience closer to Audible, I went with libro.fm. You can pick a local, independent bookstore that gets a portion of the sales. Their catalog is pretty extensive as well, have been able to find most books I'm interested in. Books are DRM-free and you can pause your membership.
  • Downpour - DRM-free as well

DRM-free is important IMO because otherwise you're at the mercy of the platform and if the company ever changes its Terms of Use or wipes your account, you lose your purchases. Amazon have remotely deleted books from users' libraries in the past or replaced them with modified copies (e.g. Roald Dahl books). Kindle announced last month they won't let you download your eBooks via USB so it's possible Audible could see changes for the worse in the future as well.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago

I always mention whenever I see libro.fm brought up: if you don't have a local store you want to support for whatever reasons, Firestorm in Asheville, North Carolina is a fantastic refuge for the local queer community, it's a worker cooperative, and they're struggling to survive. Please consider them if there isn't another local place in your own community. With the big book stores and then Amazon, a lot of communities don't have a physical local shop anymore, so if someone has a plug for their local, I think it's worth making on these kinds of threads.

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[–] picnic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

Nice.

I was paying for a family subscription for a major audiobook provider for a while. That changed after I used a 3rd party app to listen to their audiobooks and apparently broke their eula, and they were threatening to sue me and my 7 year old kid for it. Kinda killed the spirit to pay for their service.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Prologue on iOS does a great job of device syncing my Plex audiobook library. And no subscription requirement for once.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

If you want a nicer looking (though less feature complete) app I can really recommend Lissen.

[–] UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For those on iOS looking for a companion app, check out plappa for a great app to access your Audiobookshelf/jellyfin instance. It works flawlessly for me, no data collection, and it allows downloading books in advance for on the go if you choose not to have external access to your server.

https://plappa.me/

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just wish their official app would get out of beta already. It’s been stuck in limbo forever.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I was really confused about this cause the app is great. Googled Plappa and realized you were stuck on IOS. My heart goes out to you.

[–] fluffy@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check out plappa

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the heads up! Tired of trying to make the Emby app work for audiobooks.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (15 children)

I love Audiobookshelf, my main complaint is the Android app crashes when killed by Android (so when I try to open it I get a message about it crashing and then have to reopen it). That might just be a me thing.

I used the tool Libation to download my Audible books. There was a Firefox extension to download audiobooks from Libby but it's no longer working because Libby changed something and the dev didn't have time to fight the battle, anyone have a good solution to that?

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[–] RedDog@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Nice article! I've been using Audiobookshelf (win) for a year and a bit. Works great with one exception, I can't upgrade it past 2.17.16 on my Win11 box (non-docker). Any attempt to take it past that gives a non-responsive server. Not a big deal because that version is pretty stable.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

For any other Audiobookshelf users looking at that article and thinking, "Wait, how did they get that nice wooden shelf look in the UI?"

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