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Musk Retweets ‘Hitler Didn’t Murder Millions’ Message Amid Ongoing Nazi Controversy (www.forbes.com)
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[–] Zorg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

after coming under fire for a gesture he made at a Trump inaugural event that was likened to a Nazi salute by foreign leaders and Democrats.

Oh get the fuck out of here forbes, you're part of the fucking problem. That was a full on sieg heil, and the piece of shit did it twice. It was not a likeness to it, the oligarch fuckwit was unequivocally heiling.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anyone who calls it a "gesture" should be made to do it in a public setting on camera.

"Do the gesture"

[–] Kesbae@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the billionaire has denied he made a Nazi salute and played off backlash with Nazi puns

Another claim that he actually denied doing it. Can anyone point to the quote of his denying it was a Nazi salute? Lots of publications speaking for him.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't recall him saying "it wasn't a nazi salute, I apologize for the confusion, my absolute bad, naziism is wrong and abhorrent" anything short of that isn't denying it

[–] Kesbae@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep seeing the claim that he has refuted it without evidence of such. Trying to rewrite history.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." Feels appropriate here

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The 2nd one was even more clearer & Europeans are the authority on what's is a Sieg Heil & what is not, Americans don't get to decide that

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 116 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wow. He’s really leaning into this crap full force, publicly. He’s giving a full demonstration of just how untouchable he feels.

Worse, he has that little boy with him all the time now, watching him do these things.

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 66 points 1 day ago

He’s giving a full demonstration of just how untouchable he feels.

This is such a huge part of the psychology behind authoritarianism. It's about harsh rules and repression, and the perverse enjoyment of the privileged few, that can be above the rules. It's like a schoolyard bully, really, beating you up but also snitching on you to the teachers, and then enjoying the teachers not believing you. The hypocrisy is not a fault within authoritarianism, it's an essential component, of how it functions ideologically.

Taking away their feeling of being untouchable, is a massive part of how to combat it. That requires, at this point, revolutionary change, because damn, the foundations of property are all in their favour.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What little boy? You aren't referring to that ambulatory kevlar vest with the overactive nasal mine, are you?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His portable emergency blood transfusion source.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's this UA drone video of a FPV drone swooping in to hit a squad of Russian soldiers hiking a treeline, and at the very last second you can suddenly see a puppy running between their feet.

Every time I see that child, I think of that clip of the puppy :(

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not even going to try to figure out the name of any of Elon’s children. The man should not be allowed to name anything.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

If you read his Xmas card out loud, you summon Cthulhu.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A month max, and conservatives will claim Adolf Hitler as a "conservative patriot who wanted to restore Germany's place in the world".

[–] meowgenau@programming.dev 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here in Germany the far right is painting him as a commie :)

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

And then will rehabilitate him the moment, they get to repeal the laws that "keep the nation in constant shame".

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 1 day ago

“Hitler was merely the German Pinochet, saving his country from socialism”

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woah

Just like… woah. This is fucking wild to live through :(

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. “It wasn’t a Nazi salute, but if it was then Hitler wasn’t that bad.”

I want them off this planet, though I’d also settle for them being deep inside it.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Want C.H.U.D.s in reality and not just as a name to call dumbasses? Cos that's how you get C.H.U.D.s.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So says left wing rag.....checks notes Forbes.com!

[–] alt_xa_23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Inb4 musk accuses Forbes of being radical left Marxists

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Joseph Stalin, former Chinese Communist Party chairman Mao Zedong and Hitler—whose regime under his direction orchestrated the Holocaust—did not murder millions of people, “Their public sector workers did.”

Zero responsibility from those in charge is his thinking here.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

It’s also part of the antagonism towards the federal workforce and an extension of the “deep state” conspiracy theory.

I can’t remember what this specific rhetorical device is called, but he’s luring people in with something that appears true at face value so that they arrive at a conclusion they wouldn’t logically arrive at otherwise: Hitler personally didn’t kill millions of people, but the Nazi bureaucracy and military did. Therefore, Hitler isn’t to blame for all the Nazi atrocities, the bureaucracy was.

Musk is redirecting blame, like you pointed out, away from leadership and instead leading people to the conclusion that if government were smaller, then evil wouldn’t have happened. What is especially stupid about this line of reasoning is that it will eventually lead to ideas like, “if we give the president more power and consolidate all decision making to a small group, then public servants won’t mindlessly perpetuate evil,” as if this isn’t exactly what happened in every authoritarian regime right before they started doing real evil.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Wouldn't that exonerated Charles Manson if it actually worked like that?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

There is a valid argument to be made along these lines, but it leads to the conclusion that public sector workers should ignore doge if they want to do things that would cause harm. Like deleting the CDC website or leaving their jobs as air traffic controllers. Somehow I don’t think that’s how musk sees it.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

When /r/technicallythetruth tries to do a Nazi salute...

According to Musk's logic, Manson should be set free because he didn't actually participate in the slaughter of innocents in an insane attempt to start a race war. He just told his followers to do it.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago

Context: He retweeted an image saying "Hitler, Mao and Stalin did not murder millions. Their Public Service Agents did."

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 23 points 1 day ago

No, he murdered tens of millions. 21m is more precise.

We need to deal with these traitors-in-power soon.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was only giving the orders?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

let's hope "I was only retweeting" becomes the next Nuremberg defense

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Musk, who has over 219 million followers on X, formerly known as Twitter, retweeted a post saying Soviet revolutionary Joseph Stalin, former Chinese Communist Party chairman Mao Zedong and Hitler—whose regime under his direction orchestrated the Holocaust—did not murder millions of people, “Their public sector workers did.”

A good CEO will take responsibility for failings within their company even if they had nothing to do with it, because their job is to lead and to chose the right people.

Musk could shit his pants and would still try to find someone else to blame it on.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Musk could shit his pants and would still try to find someone else to blame it on.

Just like my grandpa.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

In other news, it's guns that kill people.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Really cementing his place as a skidmark on the pages of history.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Can someone just off him already?

[–] Dropper_Post@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Musk got the point. I mean if you follow the leaders blindly without questioning if it's right or wrong...

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

Hitler was unquestionably bad. There’s no nuance about it. Stop pretending there’s nuance.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

Dude can't really hold himself.

Good.

[–] FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh now he’s gonna get it.

[–] Lucky13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Get what?

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

X is coming with it. Won’t be long now.

[–] unlogic@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More worrying is that it had 14000 likes

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[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The blame is equal and several imo. There can be no outs for that sorta atrocity.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there a link to the twit? Not that I doubt the message, but that article had no image or link to it even. Unless the basic uBlock from Firefox mobile blocked it of course.

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