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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27121839

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (8 children)

You know, this should only trick young kids as they genuinely believe taller = more. The fact that it probably tricks a ton of adults just suggests their critical thinking never made it past adolescence and we should be very concerned by that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

There's a book called "Thinking Fast and Slow" that talks about a bifurcation of the mental process between intuitive mental work and deliberative work. It goes through a bunch of examples of people with established credentials, careers in intellectual professions, and proven records of deliberative thought being tricked by relatively casual visual and verbal illusions.

Getting tricked by Tall Can isn't something you can "Critical Thinking" your way out of reflexively. It is something you have to exert continuous mental energy to achieve. When the overwhelming majority of your decisions are made reflexively, and even the process of stepping over from reflexive intuition to deliberative intuition is ultimately an intuitive process, you're going to get fooled more often than not. The only real defense is to intuitively train defensive behaviors, and that doesn't avert being fooled so much as it averts falling for the most common scams.

In the end, a handful of marketing flacks can consistently outwit any audience, because they can knowingly engage in a campaign of strategic deception more easily than you can reflexively catch every deceit thrown your way. What you need is a countervailing force. A regulatory agency dedicated to imposing transparency at the barrel of a gun can render calculated deceits more expensive to implement than they return in revenue.

But the "lolz, just don't fuck up" mentality is what leads to people getting gulled at industrial scales. You're not going to outsmart the professionals and its painfully naive to think otherwise.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You know, this should only trick young kids as they genuinely believe taller = more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-pound_burger?wprov=sfla1

Adults in Murica are just as dumb and unneducated

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Essentially all of America's problems are because its population is so uneducated. We want simple answers to complicated questions because that's the best we can hope to understand. 52% of us can barely read at a 6th grade level FFS. The ignorance then allows us to entertain some pretty dark thoughts leading us to Trump.

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[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Of course we are, our education system is designed to churn out undereducated, incapable of critical thought, silent, obedient cogs for the corporate machine.

Edit: made a typo

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This doesn't really have anything to do with critical thinking, it's just that our brains work on estimations and approximations, although experience can balance it out.

Try this: draw a martini glass (inverted cone), and draw a line where you think it would be half full.

It will be wrong. Numberphile - Cones are messed up (YT)

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How much critical thinking is going on in a supermarket? Anyway, the tall ones also warm faster 😡

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[–] SamB@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Babe, wake up. New shit corpo practice just dropped.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So that's why they changed the shape. I saw no valid reason so I just assumed they were trying to evade taxes in some way. I'll admit I have no idea how much anything I buy at a convenience store costs.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If anything the taller cylinder will use more aluminum for the same volume, so they're kinda shooting themselves in the foot here with aluminum and steel tariffs, lol

Semms pretty clear the only reason for this was to change the price without as many people noticing.

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[–] reddit_fugitive@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I'm surprised the new one isn't something less than 12 ounces.

[–] Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

A few years back we literally had frito lay vendors come in before store open to reset the chip aisle, all the bag sizes shrank and they credited out the previous size.

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago (10 children)

surely this uses more aluminum

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (9 children)
[–] UraniumForBreakfast@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Ounces that are wet.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fluid ounce is volume, ounce is weight. Liters vs grams.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah wonderful, so I'm sure one fluid ounce of water weighs precisely one ounce weight wise?

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost identical, my understanding is it’s slightly off since it’s such an old measurement. But for everyday purposes it’s the same.

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[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Damn liberals and their woke-genderized measurements smh

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

1/8th of a cup

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago

...two-thirds a dram of scotch whisky...

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[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

chant with me

dont

buy

american

I mean we're not buying this stuff any longer but I'm surprised coke seems to be more expensive in the US than it is in Denmark?!?

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Quick 'proof' the taller the can, the more material used:

Consider two cases ignoring the top and bottom only focussing on the surface area. In the first case, you flatten so much the can has no height. This forms a ring that when unwrapped makes a length of 2 pi R.

Now stretch the can to be 'infinitely' long. By construction, this is longer than 2 pi r. Given both are made of aluminum, and have the same density, the larger can has more mass requiring more material.

The total mass must be a continuous function ranging from the linear mass density times the circumference of the circle to the same mass density time times the 'length' of the infinite line. This must remain true for any small increase in length between the two.

I'll leave this as an exercise to the reader. What if the circle has an infinite radius?

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