So when company do it it's fine but when we do it to companies it's not?
this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2025
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Naturally. Advantage, privilege and money should only be in the hands of those who run large companies or better.
If that made you angry, bear in mind that's what most top level company executives think. Well, actually they don't think it, they know it unconsciously as the true order of the universe they inhabit and they get really uncomfortable should it even look vaguely like someone might be trying a competing philosophy to their own.
To be fair though, most people get really uncomfortable when something might undermine even part of the philosophy they live by.
Literally the same day as HP *activating a "kill switch" code for their printers.
what happened?
(updated with a link)
Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it's functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can't replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after. It doesn't have to be malicious or illegal.
His efforts to sabotage their network began that year, and by the next year, he had planted different forms of malicious code, creating "infinite loops" that deleted coworker profile files, preventing legitimate logins and causing system crashes
I wish this guy was were actually politically motivated, but he seems to have been just really petty minded person.
Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it's functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can't replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after.
This is literally my firm's core business practice. We've been at it for so long that at this point we have to be included in competing bids because we are the only ones in the world that can do certain specific things.
so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can’t replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after.
Somehow, that's the kinda roles I always land in lol
That's what my old company used to do. You did this? Do a KT to some underpaid remote employee and when they leave it's again your responsibility to maintain it, alongside the new bugs and spaghetti they introduced.
We once told a SP50 customer that we would not provide a business critical service because an employee went on sabatical for a month and she had the only working version on her cookery computer. At that point the customer was so integrated with us that it would take them years to replace us.
Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access. But then I remember a former employer of mine did the same and worse.
Colleague was known for writing his comments in such a way that only he could read them, including mixing in German (US based company doing all business in English). He was also the admin of our CAD system and would use it as leverage to get his way on things, including not giving even default user access to engineers he didn't like. We migrated systems and everyone was thinking, "this is it, the chance to root this guy out of the admin position" and... they gave him admin access again. Not even our IT department had the access he had. I left before the guy retired / was fired, this post is making me wonder if he left peacefully or left bricking the CAD system out.
Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access.
Right now, just based purely on the access I need to do my day-to-day job involves me having access where I can pretty much nuke everything from orbit, with an ssh loop.
At some point, you need to trust your employees, in order to get work done. Sure, you can lock it all down tightly, but then you just made work take longer. It's a trade off.
Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access.
The amount of access he had doesn't surprise me. He'd been there for 11 years already likely working on many things as he interacted with systems in the course of his legitimate work. While its possible to set up access and permissions in an organization utilizing the "least privilege principle", its expensive, difficult to maintain, and adds lots of slowdowns in velocity to business operations. Its worth it to prevent this exact case from the article, but lots of companies don't have the patience or can't afford it.
My previous work didn't revoked my access to their CMS. I was so upset when they laid me off after telling them my wife is pregnant.
But I ain't that stupid.
Aren't you no longer binded by profesional silence? Just log in into their DB, export it and try to get a seller
Again, not that stupid.
We've all considered it
Oh yeah, but the thing that usually offsets the intrusive thoughts is a lot of courts treat this as the crime of "hurting rich people" which comes with like 30 years in pound you in the ass penitentiary.
Oh. Personally for me it's code reviews that prevent me from doing it, but pound you in the ass penitentiary is a good motivation too
The secret is get promoted to where you do the code reviews. Then just get too busy to do them reliably. Timebomb activated.
A 55-year-old software developer
... and...
Lu had worked at Eaton Corp. for about 11 years when he apparently became disgruntled by a corporate "realignment" in 2018 that "reduced his responsibilities," the DOJ said.
So he was 48 at the time he started this. Was he planning on retiring from all work at 48? I can't imagine any other employer would want to touch him with a 10ft (3.048 meters) pole after he actively sabotaged his prior employer's codebase causing global outages.
I'm sure DOGE is actively considering hiring him.
He fucked up. But it's also kinda funny.
guy really tagged his name on the kill function, which was running on his own system. smh my head
That’s hilarious.
And now imagine doing this or sort of this destruction in a smaller company that has one to three mediocre admins at highest. One can kill this company and they would never get it why the computers got weird.