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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

All we're missing is a nuclear submarine hitting the other two

[–] JazzlikeDiamond558@lemm.ee 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When you are so greedy that you want to maintain and operate 183m long vessel with just 14 crewmembers. The other is no better.

These are not big vessels, but the crew of 14 is deffinitely not enough. Fatigue sets in almost at the beginning of contract and by the end, you are EXHAUSTED. Literally.

It is wonder this hasn't happened before... oh wait...

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Well... That depends. How much automation do these tankers have? (Automation with redundancy, if course).

[–] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would be suprised if anything past some 1970's DC sensors to be honest.

The ships are built by capitalists, theyre about as cheap as ships get

[–] JazzlikeDiamond558@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

Yes, the tech on board is as cheap as it can possibly get. These are no state of the art ships. Nobody builds that for commercial transport. Some parts are even from dismantled ships... salvaged. I once, personally, took apart a 30 years old switch on a brand new ship (we were the second crew... ever).

However, crew shortages are DISASTEROUS today.

Let us take clear example of one crew complement of 14 people (this is just illustrative):

14 people / 2 departments (deck + engine) = 7 people per department.

Deck: 1 captain + 1 officer + 1 cargo guy + 3 crewmembers + 1 cook

Engine: 1 chief engineer + 1 engineer + 5 crewmembers

And this complement means that Captain/officer and chief engineer/engineer are keeping 6 hours on-6 hours off watch... that is already A KILLER job. Imagine having 3-6 months contract on that regime... IF you come back home you are malnourished, destroyed, exhausted and deranged. Lack of rest and sleep literally drives you mad. Even when you can sleep, these small ships are rocking like the rolercoaster, so you are again f...d.

Then, for any mooring operation, you need all crew... so, no sleep again...

Cargo operation is a nightmare from hell.

I'm not even going to go into maintenance area... with this crew complement, one guy goes to the toilet, you are left without 30% of the manpower and anything that even could be done - is delayed (not that much can be done with 3-4 men).

Whoever allowed such a small crew complement (looking at you IMO and classification societies) has NEVER EVER been at sea and I wish them all nothing but sea service until the end of their miserable lives.

Terrible tragedy that one man got lost (crews are today mostly asian and many cannot swim).

It is a global crime that cargo freights are on the rise (constantly), but the crews and their salaries are reduced.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

Evidently not enough

[–] rippermonty@feddit.uk 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

PSA: Avoid drinking ocean water for a couple of weeks

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

You can't tell me what to do!

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

ರ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ರ

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It does sound very bad but the ocean is unfathomably fucking huge. Not just surface area but sheer volume, I dont really want to go down a rabbit hole of "how much cyanide in how much water would be considered harmless", "how much cyanide was the ship carrying" or "how much water is in the ocean" but I hope someone does.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The North Sea is a huge area. How do you crash into something with all that space to drive a ship in?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 5 points 15 hours ago

It's behind you Tyrone. Whenever you reverse, things come from behind you.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"However, one of the 14 crew members on the Portuguese-flagged Solong cargo ship is missing, the vessel's owner Ernst Russ says."

The Solong.

The universe is trolling us.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So long, and thanks for all the cyanide?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago

You fucked it. So long, and thanks for all the dead fish was right there.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

So sad that it should come to this

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

So sad that it... should end tonight.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago

"Global warming isn't killing the fish fast enough, dump the cyanide!"

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Damn it! Now the EU will have to make another 100k electric cars to make up for this ecological catastrophe

[–] meliodas_101@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's be real it. It's probably in the water.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Not for a few weeks, then it will have been there the whole time so nobody needs to do anything about it.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

(...) came out of the blue and collided with the Stena Immaculate at 16 knots.

so, probably related to fog ... ... and the worst has been avoided :

(...) 36 people had been rescued, with one person taken to hospital.
(...) some jet fuel had leaked into the sea
(...) The cargo ship had been carrying 15 containers of the chemical sodium cyanide when it collided with the tanker.
(...) Sodium cyanide has a variety of commercial uses, from being used to plate metals to dye production. It is highly soluble in water (...)

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Stena out here being bad news as any other time I've heard of them.

I used to work in an electronics refurb place. The Stena laptop pallets were straight out of landfills. Just a bunch of muddy laptops thrown onto a pallet. Macbooks priced by the tonne. We had to extract as much value out of that muddy, moldy filth as possible. Lots of people are now using those health hazard laptops without even knowing it.

Any time someone said "Stena goods coming in a few days", you just wanted to kill yourself.

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jet fuel cannot melt water

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago

What if mixed with sodium cyanide?

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

People cry wolf so often nowadays that calling sodium cyanide a "highly toxic chemical" feels like a lie minimizing the damage.

[–] NotMVD@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 1 day ago

NaCN + Jet fuel

[–] simple@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just know some spiderman supervillain is coming out of that

[–] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh jeez. Did the front fall off?

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Well in this case the front fell off by all means, I’d just like to make the point that that is not normal

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, I fixed the main link.

[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago