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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Hdds were a fad, I'm waiting for the return of tape drives. 500TB on a $20 cartridge and I can live with the 2 minute seek time.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's not a real hard disk unless you can get it to walk across the server room anyway.

Tapes are still sold in pretty high densities, don't have to wait!

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Spinning rust is a funny way of describing HDDs, but I immediately get it

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just replace then all with flash, along with bluray (or other optical storage) for archival.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Optical media is not good for archival unless you're buying discs specifically manufactured for archival purposes.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Just like magnetic tape! Oh wait..

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My datacenter is 80% nvme at this point. Just naturally. It's crazy.

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[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I doubt it. SSDs are subject to quantuum tunneling. This means if you don't power up an SSD once in 2-5 years, your data is gone. HDDs have no such qualms. So long as they still spin, there's your data and when they no longer do, you still have the heads inside.

So you have a use case that SSDs will never replace, cold data storage. I use them for my cold offsite back ups.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're wrong. HDD need about as much frequently powering up as SSD, because the magnetization gets weaker.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Note that for HDDs, it doesn't matter if they're powered or not. The platter is not "energized" or refreshed during operation like an SSD is. Your best bet is to have some kind of parity to identify and repair those bad bits.

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing in this article is talking about cold storage. And if we are talking about cold storage, as others gave pointed out, HHDs are also not a great solution. LTO (magnetic tape) is the industry standard for a good reason!

[–] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tape storage is the gold standard but it's just not realistically applicable to low scale operations or personal data storage usage. Proper long term storage HDDs do exist and are perfectly adequate to the job as i specified above and i can attest this from personal experience.

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