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The response to Donald Trump's policy initiatives, the fate of Ukraine, and the issue of massive investment and record debt are on German voters' minds two weeks after the federal election.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 112 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US no longer sees the US as a trustworthy partner.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To quote a chopped up recording of JFK from a song: "Trusting in the sanity and restraint of the United States is not an option. Go home and die."

[–] loutr@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which song? Reminds me of Ministry's The last sucker (or was it Rio Grande blood?)

I'm Back by Dope.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Black, Asian, and Native Americans:

"First time?"

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ummmm .. it's happened before ... and the last time the Germans looked bad

[–] genfood@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It's probably a reference to the genocide the Germans carried out in Africa, 40 years before the holocaust.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is true and wont change when Trumps gone either to be honest. The right wing of the US is closer to Russia's right wing than any european party and also far divorced from the rest of Americas wants. So long as Fox news keeps pushing them toward fascism they'll vote for the next fascist weather its Trump or not. Dealing with the US right now is like a Jeckle and Hyde situation where each personality lasts for two to four years at a time. Too unreliable for anything productive.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The big issue for me is that it’s like dealing with a completely different country every four or eight years. How can you enter into an agreement with the US and rely on it sill being in place in 5 years?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 23 hours ago

Previously, they would uphold agreements from a previous administration. Trump doesn’t even uphold agreements from his own previous administration. If you can’t trust agreements, you stop making them and use other forms of diplomacy, which are less diplomatic. China will be under big pressure of their growth stalls. USA will be under pressure of their growth stalls due to trump. Wars are a time honoured distraction.

[–] Aconite@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

The next fascist they elect will be worse, assuming they even have elections. Why wold anyone trust a country that rips up trade deals and tosses human rights every four years?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Bold of you to presume that there will ever be another USA presidential election again...

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

These articles are so redundant... As an American I don't see America as trustworthy. I see specific states and cities as trustworthy to a degree, but that's it.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

My interests as a US citizen align with Germany’s. My government has been overtaken by traitor swine.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd hope so...

Ignoring the obvious isn't helping anything, other countries pretending trump was normal last time is a large reason why he even ran again this time, let alone won.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure the American people being some combination of undereducated, lead poisoned, religious, and just plain greedy, is what did it.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Too late now, but if every US child had been required to visit a death camp and take a semester of WWII history (actual version, not some Texas-schoolbook division approved, neutered/revisionist one) maybe we wouldn't be here today.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Honestly, America just seems in a death spiral across so many different factors, and the only solution to basically any of them is having faith in government, but the government has repeatedly failed them so many times that people don't.

Like lack of fixing lead and pollution problems creates dumber people, less able to hold their government to account.

Lack of strong public education makes people think that governments can't run schools, so they pull their kids and money into private schools which makes public schools worse. It also makes people dumber and less able to hold their government to account.

Lack of public healthcare means that people don't understand that the government can really effectively and efficiently run a utility that helps them at the lowest points of their lives.

Like, American GDP per capita, is ~$90,000, Canada's is roughly ~$55,000. We should not be able to provide comparable government services, and yet every time I went down to the states I'd notice notably worse infrastructure, on top of all the services and safety nets that I knew they weren't getting.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

Not even WWII history, US history, again not Texas schoolbook approved.

Grew up in the South: "Remember the Alamo", "It's heritage, not hate!", "War of Northern Aggression", "States Rights", "The South will rise again!"

All angrily yelled about a war 160 years ago, all angers that have been left to fester because a group has lied about them and was never dealt with. These are not statements of olden days. These are things you'll see commonplace in the south today.

The Alamo: Fought because a bunch of slavers invaded a sovereign nation (Mexico) for the purposes of trying to peel it off and get it into the Union to have more slave owning states to control the government. Mexico was a non-slave nation.

War of Northern Aggression: The South shot first. And they'll blame other situations, like federal control (that'll be discussed in next point), or John Brown with bleeding Kansas... who John Brown did go on a merry murder spree, but against slavers specifically moving up to Kansas to... again... try to outnumber the non-slave states so they'd have control over the federal government.

States Rights: The Constitution of the Confederate States of America specifically prevents states from outlawing slavery... so no fucking states rights. And on southern aggression when it comes to states rights, the South kept putting bills pre-Civil War to force northern states to allow their bounty hunters in to chase fugitive slaves. There were non-fugitive blacks that were kidnapped and taken back to the south to be enslaved.

The South Will Rise Again: These statues that were all over that's upsetting people getting knocked down weren't put up post Civil War, they were put up by the Daughters of Confederacy which became a group in 1890, and got most of them put up between 1900-1910, all the way up to the 50s, the eras of Jim Crow segregation. They're in 31 states. There were 11 states that seceded. The flag that most people call the Confederate flag is in fact the Virginia Battle Standard, the actual Confederate flag was determined to look too much like a flag of surrender ironically months before they surrendered. Virginia keeps asking/demanding Minnesota for their flag back, claiming heritage... thankfully Minnesota keeps telling them it's their heritage that they took it.

Most of this is not known by people living in the country. The lies are repeated far more than the truths. If you visited the South and didn't know anything about the US Civil War you'd be convinced the South won.

2025 at this point, I'm convinced they got their victory.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If I were to place a date for when USA started it's downward slope I'd say around the end of the 90s. Thereafter the turningpoints were 9/11, covid 19, and finaly 2025.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah it is other countries fault, lol.

This is an absolutely sane and correct response.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

This country has been taken over by the worst people. They are Nazis. You would be a fool to trust them.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago

How could anyone see the US as a trustworthy partner now?

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago