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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 198 points 2 days ago (1 children)

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Ditches fediverse but still use Xitter?

On top of the trump apointee praise?

Sus πŸ‘€

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That’s not sus, that’s what anyone ought to expect him to do, because it aligns with his bourgeois interests. Why would he stay on a non-corporate, federated social media platform when he and his bourgeois peers can’t control the narrative?

[–] lemmus@szmer.info 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm disappointed...I tried to not care about this CEO supporting Trump, but come on...now they ditch Mastodon, tomorrow they close source their clients...I'm losing trust to them, I used to think about them as knights in this capitalist world, but well. As someone once said "You either live and die as a legend, or live long enough to become evil". I don't want it to happen but yeah, I guess we all gotta find a good replacement for Proton services, sad but it is what it is.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of all the fuckin places to move to they chose reddit 😭

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

Because they can control the dialog on reddit

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 155 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is very disappointing.

[–] ramenu@lemmy.ml 147 points 2 days ago (14 children)

They have a large following on Mastodon so this doesn't really make much sense. I'm inclined to believe that they left due to the hate they were getting because of the recent controversy.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah. They can't get Mastodon moderators to suppress negative publicity like they can on Reddit and other platforms.

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[–] splinter@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago

I think this is right on the money.

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[–] kipo@lemm.ee 90 points 2 days ago (5 children)

So Proton ditched Mastodon but is still on Twitter, aka the Nazi cesspool, and Reddit. Both US propaganda platforms with heavy censorship.

Bad, bad move.

I have been defending Andy Yen's idiotic comments because he's not American and doesn't understand the hyper-reactive nature between US Americans and US politics (because our government is literally run by nazis now), but this decision isn't helping; it will fuel and reinforce the negative image already held by those who have canceled their accounts and those who are on the fence.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 10 points 2 days ago

Proton marketing itself on privacy while recently calling out the danger of tech oligarchs makes their decision to leave Mastodon and keep using Twitter very confusing. Lot of mixed signals.

[–] frozenspinach@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have been defending Andy Yen’s idiotic comments because he’s not American and doesn’t understand the hyper-reactive nature between US Americans and US politics

And I could see the point, kind of, even though it strained credulity on substance. He seemed more confused to me than die-hard partisan. But it's really hard to square what was effectively a blanket statement endorsing R's with his subsequent comment that it "was not intended to be a political statement" (paraphrase).

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago

And then also the official proton account doubling down on it a day later.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

Makes it harder to defend with the statement the official Proton account made on reddit which they have since then removed and kept editing. Makes you wonder what do they actually believe and if this is their attempt to be apolitical how much are they self censoring their true views on the matter to seem more palatable.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 19 points 2 days ago

I need to migrate away from Proton ASAP.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have Proton email and will ditch it soon.

Indeed. Fuck Swiss Google.

https://tuta.com/

I'm tired of all these ecosystems going fascist.

[–] splinter@lemm.ee 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And now I’ve ditched Proton. Andy Yen’s comments made me skeptical, but I was still confident that their mission was intact. This move, to a social media platform with a demonstrated willingness to censor non-corporatist views, confirms my fears that they are giving up their principles.

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[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I’m seriously starting to consider moving from proton to Fastmail. My renewal is coming up in May.

[–] jasmine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I switched after the whole CEO issue, but tbh I was annoyed at how limited proton mail was because of encryption. Super happy with Fastmail in comparison! Got 2 domains linked, multiple servers using it for SMTP, a bunch of aliases and masked emails. Calendar and contacts setup on android with DAVx5 to de-google some more. So good.

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[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That's in line with being from Switzerland. Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest. Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only. You are free to call me racist.

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I am Swiss myself and I feel like things are changing since Trumps second term, at least my friends seek closer ties to Europe now.

Proton gives me a bad feeling in the stomach, I would encourage people to not trust it. The guy is either a big Trump fan or most of his customers are from that base. The best option for e-mail is selfhost + pgp, the second best option are the various small companies offering email all across Europe.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Some of the initial people involved did their university and post grad studies in the US, so they seem more American than Swiss to me and more chose Switzerland to conduct business after starting the company up after meeting at CERN.

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[–] Individual_Orchid@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I so want to ditch Proton right now, but I have a lot of resumes out and have been using them for ~4 years, so all of my accounts are linked in a sense.

What to do what to do.. I know and fully agree that what's going on is sus, but I think I need to stick with it for a few more months until the job thing pans out.

Edit: I have a free Tuta account, I'll start weaning everything off, then cut free when I don't need to worry about missing an interview opportunity.

[–] ramenu@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I recommend switching to a custom domain in the future so you can avoid situations like this from happening again, this way you won't be locked down onto a single provider.

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[–] qkalligula@my-place.social 30 points 2 days ago

@ramenu .... proton recommending communication through reddit was not on my bingo card. 2025 has already been a wild ride... *looks at date*

fml

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Aww, is someone booty blasted they can't control the dialog no more?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

people were using the vpn to evade reddit bans, but even reddit does not like vpn users anymore.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Can someone recommend a good and privacy oriented alternative to Proton Drive.

It's sad that Proton bought SimpleLogin because I was and I'm currently using it before the acquisition.

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

because their ceo came out as fascist and mastodon is calling them out.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Add one more to the tally. Did the offer a reason?

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Probably because Andy Yen (CEO) was rightfully called out on Mastodon for saying that Republicans stand with the "little guy"

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