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So, my an online american friend said"My mom didn't want to vaccine vax cuzs autism". Is he joking? I know many people say thing like that but i thought they all were joking?

In my country which is a third world country no one believe shit like that even my Grand mother who is illiterate and religious don't believe thing like that and knows the benefit of vaccine.

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[–] Remix9@fedia.io 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

There's too many stupid people in power; idiocracy is becoming real

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 6 points 13 hours ago

We passed well beyond Idiocracy, they eventually changed for the better when they listened to the smart guy, we have actively hostile people in charge rather than simple idiots.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

I stopped enjoying Idiocracy as satire or humor about 10-15 years ago when I watched it the 3rd time.

[–] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's not a joke, some people are that fucking stupid.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago

FreeDUMD = the freedom to be stupid

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago

There is a small, idiotic group that thinks that. Unfortunately that group is growing.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

A nurse in my family went deep anti-vax during covid, and I still don't understand the motivation or logic. And they're definitely not an isolated story.

[–] movies@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Yup. Plenty of us sure do! It stems from bogus autism research by Andrew Wakefield like 20 years ago. There are a myriad of reasons for people to buy into it. We’ve even enabled them with religious exemptions at the state level (i.e. it’s against your religion to vaccinate).

Louisiana has even stopped promoting them, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/louisiana-health-department-stop-promoting-mass-vaccination/story?id=118819674

And we have a particularly nasty outbreak right now in one of our states because of vaccine avoidance, https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8yvg5359po

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 9 points 15 hours ago

Robert DeNiro has a child with Autism he is absolutely positively convinced was caused by vaccines, he's shushed a lot in public, but it's a rock solid belief of his. I have no idea what to say except, the science says it's not true, so I either believe one man's (more than that but still) personal experience and unimaginable pain at the unfairness of life, or I believe demonstrable scientifically tested fact. I go with the later, but still wish Bobby well.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago
[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Yes, there are fuckheads here that genuinely believe it (and other crazy shit) and I wish they'd all get cancer and die.

They contribute nothing to society and they typically have zero redeeming qualities. The entire world would be better off if they were dead, full stop.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 9 points 16 hours ago

Nowadays, its spread to other things like blaming them for heart problems, GI tract issues, etc. People who were infected with covid, some multiple times, are blaming vaccines for various health issues they're developing and refuse to accept that maybe the full-blown infection that nearly got them hospitalized could have just as well been the cause. Or just something that would have happened as they aged regardless.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Do you see how these days anyone challenging authority and pointing out issues gets labeled and dismissed as a "conspiracist"? In the past years governments worldwide with the help of social networks and mass media pushed stupid ass conspiracy forward like flat earth and no vax as a tool to control and downplay dissent.

With the healtcare system being controlled by for profit evil corporations, medics treating people as if they were robots and after the covid pandemic where experimental vaccines got forced on people against their rights, vaccines misinformation found a fertile ground.

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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I think most of this is genuine belief. There was a doctor named Wakefield who fraudulently published this autism claim in academic journals. Those papers were retracted, but the damage was done.

I think it sticks around as a conspiracy, because otherwise there's not a whole lot else that can explain the causes or origins of autism.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

Well, aside from the boring "routine expression of a spectrum of neurodivergent traits being better understood leading to increased ability to properly diagnose it, and increased awareness and support in the public education system allowing more teachers to see early indicators and advise medical consultation early so kids can get better support".

They used to just call mildly autistic people geeks and best them with rulers. Now they let them wear headphones to reduce distractions if they need it.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, at least give discredit where it's due, the brits are the ones who started it.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

True-ish :)

Wakefield went after the MMR vaccine. The whole (separate) mercury thing was started in the US and later perpetuated by people like Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey among others.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

I work with several people who believe this.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Your friend’s mom is a fucking idiot that would believe literally anything that the “right” person would say.

Absolutely a gullible little tool that’s behaving just as they want.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago

only the ones that are anti-vax believe that, in the us theres this lady , jenny mccarthny who jumpstarted the movement.

[–] DjMeas@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

In another post, the user who didn't want vaccines said it's that they did not want to put the comfort of others above their own.

I guess that's a valid stance but it's definitely not a view I share.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 16 points 15 hours ago

It’s not a valid stance. It actively undermines the effectiveness of vaccines when people choose not to get them. It’s a feedback loop that actively makes the world a worse place to be and increases the chance of premature death for thousands if not millions. It is selfish and they’re lying to themselves to feel better about it by saying such nonsense.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

That stance is stupid as fuck. Getting a vaccine isn't putting others first. It protects you and happens to have an extra benefit of protecting others as a treat.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 2 points 16 hours ago

It's sadly real. There are a lot of parents who would rather their child died a preventable death than have trouble making eye contact.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

I've never met anyone like that in person, but some people genuinely believe it.

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