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Obviously excluding videos whose authors explicitly do not want to, or copyrighted content that could create problems for individual instances.

By doing this PeerTube could become a kind of youtube database of quality content, excluding shorts and toxic/futile videos. What do you think of this approach? Could it make PT more attractive, or would it create problems for the platform?

I'm sure many creators would do it themselves but don't have time, or many would do it but don't even know about the existence of the Fediverse. Perhaps you could start by making “fan channels,” with all the most important and significant videos on a youtube channel (so without having to stay up-to-date on recent releases).

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

PeerTube can't store all videos. Only Youtube can handle the storage cost by using ads due to the massive amount of users. But you could still have a list of links etc. for videos. Maybe stream directly the video youtube but never be on the youtube site. This might already exist in form of FreeTube. It only misses the possibility to view PeerTube vides as well.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

With enough PeerTube servers, it might be possible 😁

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe with different servers. But then you need a good aggregation tool and seamless experience shifting between them.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 hours ago

They just need to be federated and all content from all of them is available on each server.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think every creator should be contacted before doing duch a thing and I guess a lot would not agree since most of them wouldn’t make any money on Peertube except if people support them through something like Patreon.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Two things to consider:

  • It's likely illegal to take other people's content and re-publish it on your own terms
  • Peertube admins have to pay for storage. So don't dump random noise there. It has to be useful / worth it. Especially if you make someone else pay for the server space.
[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago

storage issues are very real, if op wants to do this they really need to do it on their own instance

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you have the rights or it's cc then that's fine.

If you don't make sure you have permission from the creators or rights holders.

Feel free to post to: !peertube@lemmy.world if/when you do!

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the permission of the peertube admins. A single channel on YouTube can easily be over a TB. Just casually dumping a TB or two of storage onto their wallets is going to cause them to notice.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Admins have the ability to add upper limits to user uploads. I set mine to 100gb but it's a family instance.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 19 points 2 days ago

You can do it with videos that’s under the CC license.

I have myself setup a mirror of the official Guild Wars 2 channel, so I can watch their videos on PeerTube. I haven’t asked, but I don’t think they have a problem with the free advertisement.

Best people can do is convince creators on YouTube to also post their content to PeerTube, as well as engage with their audience on PeerTube.

[–] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 days ago

I would instead suggest to contact the youtube video creators directly and ask them to upload their content on a peertube instance (and give an example instance link).

[–] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Not only is there the issue of getting approval from the video creators, there's the issue that most PeerTube servers aren't ready to handle a huge influx in uploads, as this would likely be a bulk operation.

Personally I think mirroring YouTube content would be more viable once ActivityPods lands and is integrated with PeerTube, which could potentially let you self host your PeerTube account data while still being part of a separate "home instance", which would greatly help with the storage issue for PeerTube as we could all bring our own storage.

[–] pls@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.me 7 points 2 days ago

The “we started uploading” is a can of worms.

At some point, the “we” will be sued unless the legal paperwork with consent from the authors is well done. Not to mention the ton of copyright materials and music that are actually licensed for use on YouTube but not anywhere else, not to mention everything that is clearly worthy of copyright strikes but YouTube failed to notice they were serving.

While YouTube may have the legal muscle to deal with copyright infringement and appease the rights owners with some checks, a network of volunteers is not equipped to play those “games.”

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Because, contrary to what you may think you've observed over the past ten+ years, copying and republishing anyone's content without their permission is a US copyright infringement.

So yeah; if you want to get their permission, ensure all their links and such are migrated over, and do all the work for them to mirror content they've created without the benefit of making any money on it, have at it.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is already an automatic option on most peertube instances. My guess is most popular creators are not interested in giving up their ad revenue.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's probably that they're not willing to put in the effort to republish every video on peertube when the status quo works fine, or that they don't know about peertube's existence.

Louis Rossmann for example definitely cares about FOSS/Free ecosystems is a giant proponent of ad blockers, but doesn't post on peertube.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most peertube instances auto duplicate your YouTube channel for you.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

oh interesting, I doubt most youtubers know about it though, it should be promoted as much as peertube itself imo

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

applying the Facebook ai training approach to the fediverse I see, I'm 100% sure this won't villainise the fediverse at all!

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How about doing it after a certain period has elapsed? A week, or 30 days, say.

This would approximate the freemium model where early access is paid and archives are free.

It might make it easier to get creators on board.

I'd rather people create original content for it in fields other than tech (especially science and book videos); it's annoying enough when people reupload Tiktok videos to Loops.

Would be good for folks to make all reaction videos on peertube.

[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think it’s more a question of getting content creators to Peertube and the only way that will happen is if they add monitization which you need $ from ads or donations

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I don't think most big YouTubers care much about YouTube ad revenue these days, they make so much more money from audience manipulation (e.g. sponsor spots) so the current peertube system would be fine.

I honestly think the biggest current issues are that it costs a lot of money to host peertube because of the high resource requirements (storage costs are compounding as well) and that the network effect means that very few people will use it

I used to see people do this here and there but they got bored after a few months because nobody watched the content. If you could get a bot to do this, I could see this being a longer term project, but if it gets big enough some folks might object as well.

[–] Eggyhead@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh just get an AI to make AI versions of all the videos you want to watch on YouTube, then upload those. Then you wouldn’t be stealing anything obviously.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

two worst ideas in the universe combined into one, maybe add some 'cloud' or 'blockchain' to make it even worse