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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 6 days ago

This is 100% a conversation between the two of them. 🤵

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago

Just as a note, if I were to show up in the tight red dress and did not in fact, have the best night of my life (or at least a solid showing) my disappointment would be palpable.

But then I'm the sort who, calling FedEx customer service about a lost package, would point to the motto When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be There Overnight, Which obviously, in this case, did not happen.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Sorry, but it is.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

9pm? At night?

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 week ago (4 children)

lol is that a satire account? or did this chode really choose tyler durden, a fictional character's imaginary friend (the guy he wishes he was) as his profile pic?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Also Chuck Palahniuk wasn't out to his audience yet, which underlies the UST-as-fraternity that appears between the two characters.

See also Top Gun and this post.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A lot of people didn't understand the movie.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Which is ironic, because it predicts toxic masculinity 20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon. Andrew Tate is basically Tyler Durden/the narrator in real life.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

it predicts toxic masculinity 20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

20 years before it became a widespread phenomenon

err... toxic masculinity has been mainstream since the beginning of recorded history.

Males in Athens who in adult life willingly submitted to anal penetration were derided as kinaidoi, a term of abuse which had the connotation of effeminacy.

-Professor Paul Cartledge

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

That’s giving Andrew Tate WAY too much credit

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Toxic masculinity has existed for all of recorded human history. Hell, the whole fight club mentality in the movie was basically adults having the same kind of fight culture as high schoolers having fights after school to prove how tough they were to themselves and others.

It did do an excellent job of predicting internet based toxic masculinity, or maybe it was an inspiration for those that didn't understand the point of the movie.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol you think fight club is about masculinity and not mental illness?

Hahahahahahahaha

Omg that's hilarious

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Eh I'd be open to hearing an argument about how the movie or book comments on the interplay between caustic masculinity and mental illness. I don't think the script would work without it.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 1 week ago

What do you mean Marla wasn't real? They would totally let a female into the testicular cancer meetings ...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

The people who made that movie didn’t understand that movie.

Chuck Palahniuk was very not impressed with the message that movie left with young men. You should read the fight club 2 comic. It expresses his view on the situation very well.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you expect an "alpha male" to be a winner?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I expect them to be a wiener

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Russia has been strongly suspected to use Tyler Durden in its influence operations to appeal to the US mainstream-to-far right.

All of Zero Hedge’s posts are written under the nom de plume of “Tyler Durden,” the anti-establishment character played by Brad Pitt in the film Fight Club. “We believe that not only should you be comfortable with anonymous speech,” Zero Hedge contends in its “manifesto,” “but that you should be suspicious of any speech that isn’t.” For whatever reason, people seem to go along with this, and it’s a strange sight to see the name of a psychopathic character in a Chuck Palahniuk novel cited as a source in a Congressional Research Service report and a scholarly law review article, or introduced as a guest on Bloomberg radio.

Neither Zero Hedge’s anonymity nor its Bulgarian connections and pro-Kremlin views have turned off some financially savvy readers.

[–] slacks9579@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Took me multiple reads even with the top text🤦‍♂️

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

isn't the joke simply that they're top and bottom? am I missing something deeper?

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Supposedly they're different conversations, where each man is addressing a woman.

Took me quite a while, even with all the comments. To me they're just gay dudes and the one labelled "alpha" has a thing for ~~transvestites~~ crossdressers? (sorry if wrong word, not native speaker)

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm writing this reply not as a correction, but as advice from a native english speaker. The word "transvestite" has fallen out of use due to connotations (bigotry). I would use cross-dressing here, instead of transvestite. It's a word that USA-english speakers mostly avoiding using because there are less ambiguous ones (use transwoman/transman for trans people, use cross-dressing for cis people preforming a role/fetish).

Your choice of word was not incorrect, it has just fallen out of fashion.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

had to tell my English teacher the same thing last Friday. She reads a lot of historical books, so it makes sense that there'd be some confusion lol

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the perspective, amended my post. Didn't remove it completely to allow others the same insight.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Thank you! I could only see it as the alpha wanted the beta to dress like a chick so they could bone.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

ohhh wow I never would've gotten that by myself lmao

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is it a joke? I’m reading the original as defining terms, and the poster as laughing at the juxtaposition implying homosexual intent for a typically homophobic population. Or maybe ts just funny that someone defines an alpha male in terms of wanting a gay encounter with a cross dresser. Works either way

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i actually thought it was a satire account and they intentionally implied that gay sex is part of being masculine

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Refuse to believe they aren't a cute couple.

(Alpha would just be a jerk if he randomly said that. As part of a convo it works.)

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I thought it was like their thing - beta likes to wear those sexy dresses but is kinda shy about it, and alpha loves to see him in them so he's pushing him on. Happy people all around!

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That is such a wholesome view of the alpha male toxicity! You can also imagine he is the tough guy, so he’s going out with beta to make sure he has a good time and no one bullies him. What a great friend! A true definition of alpha male is a protector everyone can count on

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But what if I (straight-ish) prefer it to be that conversation?

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes dressing slutty and being told what to do sounds nice 🤷‍♂️

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

In a relationship with good communication, it's a blast.

Some rando channeling their inner Andrew Tate and telling you what to wear on the first date almost guarantees you're going to leave unfulfilled and probably with oral herpes.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

#relationshipgoals

[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That second way could be passable if it weren't for that last sentence

[–] improbablypoopingrn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Into adulthood, and I'm pretty sure that if I sent my significant other "You're gonna have the best night of your life. See you at 9pm" they'd be excited.

If your S/O doesn't like surprises that's one thing, but if your S/O isn't happy to be informed they're going on a date with you then you might want to think about what you're looking for in a partner (assuming you like going out on dates of course)

[–] atomicpoet@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are those siren emojis beside his name?

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

I think they're red flags

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just don’t make eye contact and loudly declare “No Homo” after every orgasm, and it’s certified straight sexual activity.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I know from Internet lore that it isn't gay if the balls don't touch