Truly. Any moderate support for AES? Immediately labeled a tankie, I've seen Anarchists and even Liberals labeled a tankie. The term only exists to punch left from the Liberal POV, just like "Woke" is used to punch anything left of fascism.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Posting in a thread that will have 300 comments and 20 visible on hexbear

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Probably for the best because if you click through to the .ml version you get worlders saying things like

I dunno, I perceive it more as a letft wing term for left-extremist fascists

Words mean nothing to these people lmao

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 weeks ago

It's a very silly place here.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

.ml is the best instance because you get to see the comments from all other instances

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That also makes it a very draining instance where there is constant skirmishing, but the plus side is that it's a good frontier to try to push Leftist ideals for other instances to see.

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[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Authoritarianism is authoritarianism. Doesnt matter how you paint it.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago (37 children)

Not really, no. To a capitalist, all forms of leftism is 'authoritarian,' because they consider private property natural and oppose leftists 'stealing' in.

'Authoritarianism' just isn't a particularly useful term because nobody who uses is is ever actually categorically opposed to forcefully compelling people to do or not do things. They will always have a build in exception for what ever they consider to be 'legitimate authority', and what they consider justified authority will just depend on what political philosophy they ascribe to. So really calling the word just means "someone with a different political theory to me with regards to legitimate authority."

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[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Do MLs consider anarchists liberals now?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Generally not. Anarchists and Marxists want separate goals and have separate means, but Liberalism is a separate ideology.

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[–] Carl@lemm.ee 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

True but only for terminally online liberals. I still haven't heard anyone in real life ever use that word.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just replace "woke" with "russian".

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Tank you very much

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 21 points 3 weeks ago

Its become the boomer equivalent of calling everything bad communist.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago (32 children)

Tankie doesn't really mean anything to me anymore. Even self-proclaimed tankies often have trouble defining it in a way that is consistent among leftist groups.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

A tankie is anyone to the left of whoever is using the pejorative. Usually because they expressed a critique of imperialism or aren't sufficiently racist towards the Chinese.

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