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Wikipedia’s credibility is under attack from pro-Israel critics and right-wing voices such as Elon Musk

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[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 151 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Right wing trashing nice things. Typical.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago

It's all they're capable of

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 105 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

credibility

pro-Israel critics and right-wing voices

lol.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 75 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Elon just like to stir shit to get more money. He entirely lacks empathy so anything he's doing has nothing to do with believing in something. He's a child breaking the toys of others solely because he can.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The sooner everyone realizes all CEOs are like this, just not as vocal and in the spotlight the better society will be.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

Maybe this is the big filter, the one from the Drake equation and the Fermi Paradox that destroys civilizations before they can spread past their own planet. Not nuclear bombs or viruses or AI or grey goo nanomachines but overcoming the fact that the worst garbage of the species rises to positions of power because they don't have any morals that would slow them down or give them pause for thought before exploiting the rest of the species in any way possible.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Bet Hitler had the same personality.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You guys all downloaded offline versions of Wikipedia...right?

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I did that once and then installed it onto my Nintendo DS.

[–] win95@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Seriously? I need this on my DS now too but I think it'd be a huge file

[–] S2K@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

140ish gigs for the kiwix copy

[–] win95@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

That's not huge, but I recently ran into some issues of my DS lite not accepting a too big SD card

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

The size of the latest version of articles (no history) and without any media (pictures and videos) is pretty small. It's less than 200 GB.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, you need one of those cards that takes an SD card. I think you do need the nopic download to keep the filesize manageable.

[–] win95@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Thank you! I love this idea

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You find the nopic version is still usable? I haven't used the offline content, but I feel like no images would leave me wanting more. Then again, for what it is, it's still pretty awesome, and I understand that storage space is a consideration.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, most of the pages is text anyway.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 days ago

Increase your monthly donation to Wikipedia.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

Wikipedia was right in calling the ADL untrustworthy.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I downloaded a copy of Wikipedia via kiwix before the 20th, knowing herr Musk's grudge against them.

[–] yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Suppose those of us who've missed the bus want to get a copy of the content from before the 20th, is that still available? In other words, do they offer downloads of older versions of the content?

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 days ago

The most recent version in the kiwix ui is from Jan of 24. Wikimedia's various download mirrors look like they offer stuff from largely from April or May.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Wikis are unsuitable for anything contentious. Wikis are the solution to the problem of crowdsourcing objective facts, what makes them great is that anyone can add a few (even very obscure) ones; on anything contentious there are way too many, not too few, people wanting to write about them, making the wiki a solution to a nonexistent problem. This news story is yet another example of this.

... and hardly anything is more contentious than Israel/Palestine, which is why wikis work least well for articles on that.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 61 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Israel Palestine isn’t contentious when discussing the fact that Israel is genocidal. It is universally agreed by genocide scholars and frankly anyone who has seen what Israel is doing to Palestinians (if one believes Palestinians are people that is).

The only thing that is contentious is that Israel and its supporters don’t like it when people state facts about them.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There's currently a big hubbub going on in the Wikipedia Gulf of Mexico talk page about changing the name to Gulf of America.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I mean, for localized pages maybe. Probably best to stick it under the "dumb stupid politics" section, though.

That's incredibly dumb.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I took a really big shit the other day. Like, really BIG. We can call it the shit of the americas and anyone that disagrees would be making it a big hubbub.

Just because it was a president saying something stupid does not prevent it from being stupid.

Wikipedia was here before those dudes and will be here after them. They are small in the grad scale of things.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But it's less unsuitable than any alternative avenue for contentious information (traditional news media, youtube/podcasts, social media, etc) - for the simple reason that wikipedia encourages citing sources, while every other platform discourages it.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

It's also crap at screening sources for credibility.

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[–] souperk@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are there any other, less biased, sources on the topic?

After skimming through the decision of the arbitration comitee, I feel there more than a few inconsistencies in the article.

A quick google search revealed only Isreal friendly sources covering the decision...

I haven't looked but this sounds like something that only Israel-friendly-sources would find news worthy.

To everyone else it's just trolls getting banned.

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