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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

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[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Democracy is demagogue-prone. That’s a disease to which electoral systems are vulnerable. Yet demagogues are easy to identify. They gesture a lot and speak with pulpit rhythms, using words that ring of religious fervor and god-fearing sincerity.

The practice can always be detected by anyone who learns the signs: Repetition. Great attempts to keep your attention on words. You must pay no attention to words. Watch what the person does. That way you learn the motives.

They create a system where most people are dissatisfied, vaguely or deeply. This builds up widespread feelings of vindictive anger. Then they supply targets for that anger as they need them—as distraction. Don't give time to question.

They bury mistakes in more laws. Traffic in illusion. Bullring tactics. Wave the pretty cape. People will charge it and be confused when there's no matador behind the thing. That dulls the electorate just as it dulls the bull.

Fewer people use their vote intelligently next time.

There appears to be a rule of nature that says it's almost impossible for self-serving groups to act enlightened, flowing with the forces of life, adjusting your actions that life may continue. With the greatest amount of happiness for the greatest number, of course.

The risks of democracy and how to prevent them paraphrased from Dune.

Apparent everywhere, Trump is just one in this path of centuries.

Focus on actions, not promises, and unite against inequality and division. Systems should be simple, transparent, and work for everyone, not just the wealthy or powerful. Educating and organizing workers, holding leaders accountable, and building solidarity across all groups are essential for achieving fairness. Lasting change comes from addressing root causes, not chasing temporary fixes.

Maybe the next century will show results somewhere.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Oh, boy, what you've got going on looks like so much fun, how could we want to miss out?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

Four more years of this shit. But oh well, it's worth it if it spared a few people of superior moral integrity from compromising their principles to vote for Harris when she didn't measure up to their requirements and the Democrats didn't run a good enough campaign and besides it was kind of cold that day and it would have meant putting on pants.

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[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 days ago

I personally think this is bravado to negotiate something more realistic, although if he really wanted to it's unlikely Canada would resist.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

As a Canadian, fuck you Trump. Canada will never be a US state. Not sorry.

[–] chuymatt@startrek.website 2 points 6 days ago

Its truedeau. (Its a pun)

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 days ago

It's bad enough being one of those states now, and I'm in one of the good ones.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (7 children)

If it goes down I'm just gonna scoot up north and fight on your side for Canadian citizenship.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder how many would lol

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A lot more than the Rs would think.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hope so! I live pretty close to the border so this is all a bit surreal

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Solidarity forever, fellow worker ✊️

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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The amount of Americans visiting Australia who assume people here would want to live in America instead given the option was astounding to me.

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

[–] Hafler@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem's fault.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 week ago

Trump is going to speedrun all our ~~vassals~~ allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 47 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Us citizens pay tariff this doesn't hurt Canadians. They should call bluff and say do 30%.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Canada will absorb most of the extra cost if we want to sell product to the US.

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[–] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

My understanding is that tariffs in general can apply to both imports and exports, on either side.

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[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

rip you guys are gonna get couped
imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

imperialism is manifesting itself in the imperial core

Sounds familiar

[–] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Insert Césaire quote on fascism

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

Dear Trump:

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