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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"You remember that llm we spend billions of dollars on, that nobody asked for? Well we're done half baking it into all our apps and now we're almost doubling our prices to help pay for it all."

The logic of the utterly deranged...

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They did the same with 3.5 jack removal from phones, charged more for less

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[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 131 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I spent about 20 minutes today trying to get Copilot on Word to tell me how to disable Copilot on Word. Worth every penny.

[–] vaderaj@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

The clippy we all deserved

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I really wonder what their long term plan is here.

Hardly anyone really wants copilot, it doesn't add a lot of value, yet makes the product less competitive.

I totally get rent seeking, Office is so ingrained that it's almost impossible to get away from it. But why force AI on everybody? Why not add it as a bonus?

Is this just a desperate attempt to soften the massive losses of the AI investment?

[–] Jestzer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To please the shareholders. Then, when AI is no longer deemed valuable and its tremendous costs sink in, they will remove it and layoff the teams that worked on it, to please the shareholders.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

But they'll keep the prices high

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's not for you. It's for them. Copilot digests everything you type into the Office apps, and it provides them with millions of real writing examples that are free from copyright (read the new Office EULA).

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The AI hardware isn't for us. It's for Google and Microsoft, so they can steal your computer's CPU time and hard drive space so they can build their own personal Skynets. (Same thing with CoPilot, which requires 50gigs of your hard drive space. You're also paying for the privilege of being spied on, which is nice for them, I guess.)

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First thing I do with the Google Assistent on Android Phones is to tell it to disable itself. Cool thing is that it does.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

You can do that??

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[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You can call the sales team and ask them to change your subscription to the classic version to opt-out of Copilot and get the old price back, if you still need the subscription over changing to other open source office suites.

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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fuck the MS suite is such garbage. My work was sold in for Teams with all the BS. Now I have to either map up the filepath creating what we used to have, or I can't see the file folder and make a call at the same time. Onenote with it's arbitrary syncing. And good luck finding it again since it stored at some random place if you loose access.

Word and excel is decent, but for a person who likes to tinker with versions it's a nightmare to invite people to edit it.

Cluncky interface, slow and bloated all around

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

The degree to which MS Teams can get fucked by the horse it rode in on is proportional to the number of registry entries their bloatware has on first install.

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[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 day ago (19 children)
[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 6 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

So Libre Office is free?

If it does what regular office suit does i would happily pay 300 dollars for it to have it as mine and not be fucked with

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

the only problem with onlyoffice is that it's electron.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

why not just do:

microsoft 365: 6.99

microsoft 365 + copilot: 9.99

blobcat, think

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

You damn well know why they dont do that $$$

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

… second paragraph of the article:

In addition to the basic plans getting Copilot rolled in, there are now additional "Basic," "Personal Classic," and "Family Classic" tiers without Copilot and "other advanced features" added for users who do not use AI in their workflows

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The fact that people are subscribing to office software is the biggest problem here. What sort of technical breakthroughs require so many updates that a subscription is necessary?

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

As much as they are pushing to stop 1 time purchases of office, they do still offer it. I purchased a license for like $20 off a discount site for Office 2021, and i have no clue why people need a subscription plan for this. It would take some very specific needs for that to ever be needed and I'm sure a huge percentage would be just fine with the 1 time purchase that lasts 3-4 years of support.

As for businesses that part stinks... once you get integrated with all the services offered, it's going to take a lot to back out since it's not just office they are probably subscribed to but everything else that enterprise has to offer. They are absolutely banking on people to suck it up and accept the position they are in and give in. It's awful, but at the same time if your business went all in and didn't anticipate this then they didn't do their job if you ask me when vetting everything. This feels similar to the recent buyout of VMware and are now pushing insane new license costs. The problem is they went to high where despite the effort it will take to change products people have to. We can only hope Microsoft is on the edge of crossing that line.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

the technical breakthrough of increasing shareholder value

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[–] j4yt33@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)
GOZER
The choice is made. The Traveller has come.

VENKMAN
We didn't choose anything?!!  I didn't think of an image, did you?

SPENGLER
No.

WINSTON
My mind's a total void!

[They all look at Ray]

RAY
I couldn't help it! It just popped in
there!

VENKMAN
What? What just popped in there?
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[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Phew, this was a good reminder since I was meaning to cancel my subscription anyway. It was going to auto renew in 2 days. 😬

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Make it too expensive and people will switch to Google docs.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Google workspace just pulled the same crap with Gemini

[–] raker@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Last week at us.

First question I asked the evil twin was: "How can I deactivate Gemini and never hear from it again?" Support article poped up, where must opt out from some Labs setting or some bs, but only a workspace admin can do it.

Ended up with blocking that flare button with uBo. Problem solved.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Excel is the deal breaker on that. My last company was all Google products and auth, but I still had to buy Excel for the accounting and HR teams.

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