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more adventures on rednote mostly because it’s entertaining how mad people get when i talk about it :3 /halfjoke

this was posted 12/31 btw so i don’t think “the mods haven’t gotten to it yet” is a real thing

#le is common in parallel to the anglosphere’s #wlw which i think is adorable

my number one qualm with little red book so far is there is no native translation like tiktok has. lots of google translate is necessary to get the social media to social :P

necessary disclaimer: fuck the CCP and all the real violence and repression they do. just want to give credit given where due, and so far here im just seeing a lot of assumptions with no evidence? so im gonna post what my experience is :) i welcome all to do the same

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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well whoever said CCP will censor LGBT content doesn't know much about the CCP.

On the other hand try posting anything critical about the Chinese government...

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Chinese writer sentenced to 10 years in prison for homoerotic book

A Chinese novelist has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for writing and distributing homoerotic novels, provoking widespread debate online over the severity of her sentence.

The female writer, surnamed Liu, but more commonly known by her internet pseudonym Tianyi, was arrested in 2017 following the success of her novel “Occupy,” according to reports in Chinese state media.

The book was described by police in East China’s Anhui Province as depicting “obscene sexual behavior between males” set to themes of “violence, abuse and humiliation.”

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

IANAL in Chinese law but I believe it is writing erotic stuff that's illegal in China, gay or not.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

memes.ml banned me for saying both US and China engage in propaganda. One of the users, which I assume to be one of the moderators, responded as false equivalence because I could not reply the minute after the response. Either that, or because I directly mentioned .ml users in general is tone deaf about China doing its own propaganda.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm gay for tiananmen square.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago

weirdchamp but aight 🤨

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

i have to admit it is quite magnificent.

Out of every lesbian manwha I read all of them were Chinese

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 1 day ago (8 children)

From what I've seen, a lot of queer people are afraid to be themselves there. Some may even experience backlash and threats of violence for being LGBTQIA. There's a lot of hostility to us across that entire nation tbh.

On top of that, there is constant scrutiny with mass state surveillance. Queer and POC may be silenced or even face imprisonment for expressing themselves. And don't forget that nation's concentration camps, genocide, torture of political prisoners, and barring people who don't toe the party line from residency and citizenship.

Oh wait, that isn't Red Note. That's the USA and my small town.

Oh wait, that isn't Red Note. That's the USA and my small town.

Damn u got me at the first half ngl

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean…that’s both vampiric superpowers. China and the US.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as a benevolent state, to be honest. Nations and borders only divide and subject us. Every day, I feel more sure that we need to build communities in spite of states and to do what we can to disrupt and abolish them, so thank you for mentioning this glaring example.

However, I will say when we in the US point at China, we've got three fingers pointing back at us. Pretty hypocritical of us, and largely racist.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I meeaannn… of course the US has an imperial bone to pick with the other imperial nations. So the same attitude and conditioning to “other” the competing nations applies equally to Russia and china. So I think I have to disagree on your point that there is inherent racism in the china conditioning. Does racism get borne out of the antagonistic relationship? Of course. But everything said about china is said equally (at least in spirit) about Russia.

And you’re absolutely right, there is no benevolent state. A state’s first and only goal is to sustain itself and secondly to increase is standing. And I’m def with you that we need to not let borders come between the global working class.

My whole point is there is a tendency on the more communist-leaning left to reverse the conditioning by just swinging all the way to the other side. “The US is bad, china/Russia is better.” They’re both equally imperialist, they’re both equally exploitative, and they’re both equally heinous. It’s absolutely a mistake “western” leftists make to embrace the other superpowers in an attempt to denigrate their own. It’s necessary to remove that lens when we discuss these kinds of issues to see the entire picture, because swinging to the other superpower nations and embracing them as better is such a limiting (and incorrect) way to think about it. It’s a simplified first step in realizing your home nation is wrong. Going against them for being wrong should not mean embracing their equally wrong counterparts.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, the US is pretty substantially worse than China, by almost any metric.

And if you think it's not a racial issue with China, I think you have some investigating to do. You obviously haven't spent time on mainstream White Supremacist platforms such as reddit, Facebook, or the comments threads on any mainstream news article. Oh wait, I also see it here on Lemmy. There's a constant othering of Chinese people in a way there's not of people in Russia. (I even find it curious that Russia seems to appear out of nowhere in any conversation about China for no apparent reason, hmmmm.... now why is that?)

That's why Xiaohongshu/Red Note has been so illuminating for people. It's been nice for me. Answering questions about each other's languages and judiciously sharing pictures and videos has been cool, but I already know and talk to people from China, and my dad taught social studies. For many people, this is their first realization that we've been fed racist propaganda all our lives.

Now yes, people could react by romanticizing the state of China itself, after seeing the many ways in which it is better than the USA, but they will learn. And I hope the most important lesson they learn is that, as you said, states are made-up tools of the oppressors that only exist to divide and subject, to protect the state for the state's sake, at our expense. Always at our expense.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

China has no LGBT marriage rights and no protections against discrimination, how is that better? How is having fewer rights to be myself the preferable option in your view?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You really have your head in the sand if you think the US state is protecting us and can say this within the month that bipartisan anti-trans legislation was signed, not to mention all the bills that have been introduced that are poised to set us back further than Stonewall era.

Now please stop making me defend the Chinese state. I hate the government of China as I do any state lol. I just think it's a far better system than the US government by almost any metric.

China still has fewer protections than theUSA. Pretending otherwise is foolish. The laws are easily available for you to compare.

If you think China is a far better system ypu haven't lived in an authoritarian culture...yet.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

The level of shortsightedness in people is astounding to me again and again. History really seems to always repeat. When will people ever learn that there is no company in the world that is their friend.

"Oh, but it looks fine and i havent had any issue" says the little user that is currently feeding the networking effect of the next platform, that will inevitably fail in exactly the same way as every other for profit social media.

"Oh, but everyone is here and i dont wanna switch again" says the little user that now has the choice between losing all their feeds and follows or staying on a platform slowly being squeezed for money or political incentives.

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[–] Fleur_@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yes I am being payed by the CCP to promote lesbianism

(sarcasm. the CCP is hatefully repressive to queer identities.)

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

(sarcasm. the CCP is hatefully repressive to queer identities.)

And yet, here you are, making this post.

Would you be making a post giving trump props if an occasion happened where he was the broken clock that happened to be right that one time? No? Then what are you doing here? (I don't need you response, this is something you should be asking yourself)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 23 hours ago

You’re getting my response anyway, ready?

Would you be making a post giving trump props…?

Does Trump own TikTok? Instagram? No. So I would not give Trump props when TikTok or Instagram exhibit good behaviors.

  • I am giving props to RedNote for the space it is allowing for queer voices.
  • Fuck Trump.
  • Fuck the CCP.

That’s it. You gotta engage your active listening skills more brother. ❤️

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do I sign up for that. I’d like to get paid!

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago

I’m not sure it just kind of started happening

[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Suggesting that the CCP is open to letting lesbians live their life seems pretty surreal after what happened to Naomi Wu. It's shocking how quickly the dust settled on that.

Though to anyone trying to encourage discontent to westerners with socially liberal beliefs, it's a pretty helpful narrative to push.

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[–] shani66@ani.social 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"b-b-but corporation bad!"

No shit people, corporations are badbut some are worse and some are better. Not that that is even the topic of discussion, this is clearly about spaces people exist in.

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[–] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cringe app

cringe post

cringe everything

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