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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is all theatre, trump is going to "save it" after starting the initial push to ban it (for the wrong reasons) to pretend he did something for you. Worst part is that all of the no/low info voters and non voters will eat it up.

It's the equivalent of a person pushing you into the middle of the street and at the very last second, that same person tells the drivers to all stop. "Wow, I owe you my life!"

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Please criticize the us government for this as hard as I have been criticizing China for locking it's citizens out of the world stage with their "great firewall".

Or don't, it's not like hypocrisy doesn't get enshrined and worshipped here lmfaoooo

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago

It's simply not even close.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Please and thank you!

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (3 children)

They are going to ban themselves as protest for banning them..?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Essentially yea, the laws enforcement mechanism as-is is just having the app delisted from app stores

Everything else is of TikToks own doing

[–] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago (9 children)

And that’s all it should be. Currently, the US government does not have the facilities to block traffic to specific websites or IP addresses on a country-wide basis. We don’t have a “great firewall” the way China does, and we should keep it that way.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Yes it does? All it would take is a single piece of legislation and a couple of hours for all ISPs to block all traffic to certain IP ranges.

Sure, it doesn't prevent VPNs but it would block 95% of access. The remaining 5% can be blocked through banning VPNs and deep packet inspection, the latter of which doesn't require that much new infrastructure.

[–] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I said “currently”. Sure, the US could pass legislation that would require ISPs to implement that ability. I said they do not currently have that ability, and you seem to be disagreeing because it is hypothetically possible for the US to build its own great firewall. I do not want to assume your intentions but it appears you may have misinterpreted my message.

What I said is still correct. The point of my comment was that the US should not pass legislation to build a great firewall.

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[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago

Actually...

I think if people in the US had the capacity for introspection and empathy we would have had a collective

are we the baddies

moment every year for the past 250y...

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Um, well, they are first of all complying with the decision, in spirit. When someone has indicated to you, even in very diplomatic terms, that you may be unwelcome, it’s a reasonable response to stand right up and walk the fuck out.

Secondly I think they are doing it swiftly and abruptly to take advantage of this moment of public awareness. They want to create as abrupt a break as possible no doubt to maximize the outrage of their many millions of users and advertisers while everyone has the news fresh in their mind. They probably hope that this will create enough pain and disruption to stir opposition to the ban or at least political fallout for those who caused it.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Do it, just do it with no second thoughts. They can't, they will lose all their business.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Zuckerberg is behind it, just like he was when they banned it on India. Politicians get what they want by eliminating a company that doesn't support them, Meta gets more usershare in the U.S. they can control the narrative and keep their guys in place so they don't get regulated and they get more tax breaks.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In other words, the US government exists solely to serve its wealthiest constituents.

[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Meanwhile China says no American internet sites in their country and I guess that’s ok for some reason.

No one is saying that. Two governments can be wrong simultaneously.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Censorship is bad when China does it. Censorship is bad when America does it.

Same for Germany, Australia, Japan, North and South Korea.

Governments don't censor speech because they protect their citizens, they censor speech because it protects their monopoly on violence and help propagate their visions to an unquestioning audience.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

who said it was ok?

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're shutting down instead of blocking new downloads, seems like a stunt. But the blocking of new downloads is obviously happening if SCOTUS doesn't step in...that's the law. That's just what the law says.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (9 children)

get a vpn (that isn't proton) now people cause it'll only get worse

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

And learn how to use it.

And get your FF fork loaded up with the right extensions to prevent fingerprinting.

Ugh, this world is so cooked, but we keep reaching out of the oven and turning up the heat on ourselves.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

A shutdown would be preferable than a sale of the active app and userbase to Elon no?

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

Yes TikTok, that’s what a ban is.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Yeah this just sounds like compliance with the media making it seem like a protest for clicks...

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Just fucking do it alreadyyyyyy

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I'm surprised they're taking that approach rather than pushing the web version.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

First time in years I see something not bad happen in the US

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're not looking very closely then

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You got some suggestions on where to look? We're speedrunning the fall of rome over here, it's pretty much to the point that even hope is an unreasonable thing to hope for...

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