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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 121 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn! If only someone could've predicted that Meta would eventually do something stupid like this! If only we had defederated from them from the start /s

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 16 points 1 month ago

But nobody could have seen that coming! /s

https://fedipact.online

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 month ago

That’s my secret, Captain, I’m always defederated from corporate social media.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How can a decentralized platform have a CEO?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (22 children)

You recognize that Mastodon, the software, is developed by a non-profit called Mastodon gGmbH?

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 30 points 1 month ago

Actually I was not aware of that, thank you for telling me.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] yozul@beehaw.org 15 points 1 month ago

Because there's a company that makes the software used to run a Mastodon instance. Same way Mozilla has a CEO even though they're not in charge of the internet.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who wants to be CEO of lemmy btw? You'll have no power over anything, but we can call you that from now on as a joke.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Corporate fediverse isnt true fediverse

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah, when my Lemmy server goes down I don’t want it to be because of a large scale cyber attack, I want it to be because some dude’s dog got the zoomies in the basement and tripped on a cable.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I find it funny how every time an oligarch owned platform starts getting popular people start screeching about Fediverse losing momentum. Yet, every few years these platforms inevitably start doing things that horrify their users and we see another exodus to open platforms happen.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm convinced its a combination of media silence on the fediverse (so most people don't know about it as an alternative), and younger audiences who don't know the history.

Because I can't imagine why grown adults who know the history of these companies, would do the goofy I'll fkn do it again meme, ten times in a row.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Relative obscurity is an aspect of it for sure, and I imagine networking effects are a big part of it as well. Accounts with a lot of followers tend to drive where people migrate. When a big account leaves twitter to bluesky they can pull thousands or even millions of users along with them. Meanwhile, people moving to Fediverse end up having to abandon a lot of the people they were following as a result. It's also a lot easier for an account to grow on a centralized platform which is another reinforcing factor here.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems like those big accounts always choose to go from corporate platform to another corporate platform. They almost never choose to move to the fediverse.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I suspect it's because it's easier to have a mass following on a centralized platform. A federated platform will inherently be at odds with that. I personally don't see that as necessarily a bad thing either as it makes the Fediverse unattractive to commercial interests and marketers.

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I think ignorance (in the non pejorative sense) plays a big part. I can't really blame my non technical friends for not fully understanding that ditching Facebook for Instagram doesn't help. Even if they know it's the same company, it's still a totally different product, right? There's also a certain apathy or need to just get something done.

I'm sure I've purchased things at Home Depot that would make a plumber cringe, but I know nothing about that sort of thing and I just need to get my sink working.

Still, I think those of us who do know should continue to lead by example. My friends know my stance on these things and some of them are coming around.

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree, but I don't think we're in the cycle just yet, it feels like there's a big tipping point we're about to reach in the western owned social medium.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

It's possible that we'll hit a point of critical mass where Fediverse becomes the dominant social media platform, but I don't think explosive growth is necessary either. Growth for the sake of growth holds little inherent value. Unlike commercial platforms reliant on VC funding to survive, Fediverse thrives on sustainability. What really matters is that there are enough developers to maintain the platforms, people to host the servers, and users to create content. With these elements in place, platforms like Lemmy and Mastodon can continue indefinitely without the need to attract users at a rapid pace.

In fact, rapid growth could do more harm than good. A sudden influx of users often brings toxic behaviors. When new users trickle in slowly, they adapt to the existing norms and culture of the community. But when a horde arrives, they risk overwhelming and reshaping the community in ways that trample over its core values. A steady stream of users allows for organic integration, preserving the essence of what makes sites like Lemmy pleasant.

Unlike commercial platforms, open-source projects don’t rely on profit motives to survive. They’re driven by people who directly benefit from their work and are passionate about their vision. When disagreements arise, projects can be forked, allowing different groups to take them in new directions. Even if a project is abandoned, it can be revived by a new team as long as there’s a dedicated community. This flexibility and resilience make open source inherently more sustainable than commercial platforms, which can vanish overnight if funding dries up.

The Fediverse, and Lemmy within it, only needs a large enough user base to remain self-sustaining. I’d argue that it’s already well past that threshold. There’s no rush to grow rapidly. Steady progress ensures the community retains its identity and values, while the open-source nature of the platform guarantees its longevity. Lemmy isn’t just another platform; it’s a sustainable, adaptable ecosystem built to endure. I’m willing to bet that Lemmy will still be around long after sites like Reddit crumble to dust.

[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we fucking said this would happen and this dumb asshole refused to defederate on the flagship instance anyway

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 7 points 1 month ago

Call me psychic. And he really is an asshole

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Meta moderation was a dumpster fire before this, I can only imagine how bad it's going to get.

Currently they have blatant misinformation everywhere posted as real news, people read the stuff and believe it fully. It should be illegal - people are just too stupid to know Facebook is just a modern tabloid magazine.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Years ago I reported the same account for bullying the same person, every time FB came back saying “no issues found”. The site is fucked, and blatantly has been so for years. But it was recently pointed out to me it has been since the start. He’s not a nice guy.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How do I find out if my Mastodon server is federated with Threads?

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is old, it still has the (now defunct) feddit.de instead of feddit.org

[–] Mim@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

RIF feddit.de 😔

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Nice. Pretty happy that most of the fediverse, and most lemmy instances, are blocking threads.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago

At least on mine, there's an "About" link on the bottom left side on the web interface, click that and scroll to the bottom where you'll get a list of blocked servers, then just uncollapse that and ctrl+f for "threads.net".

[–] elena@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Even if your Mastodon instance is federated with Threads, you can still block the whole domain from your account. Explanation / walkthrough here: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/113797840274825233

[–] Bz1sen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also if you search "@threads.net" in your mastodon client and you find users from that server, then your server should be connected

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

“Who saw that comi… who saw where that came from!”

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