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Overall this event was pretty mid imo 🥱
Beginning to feel like this industry is stagnating. Just doing enough to appease the stockholders and pump the stock.
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Phones are completely boring now, colours should not be newsworthy but they always get a mention because everything else moves at snail's pace.
At least Jobs had vision to push innovation.
They're "boring" because they're at their limit. The form factor can do what it can do.
Foldables will eventually enhance the experience, but the materials that are available don't do the job. Until then there's only iteration.
Foldables are never going to take off.
What we really need is rollables. Give me a scroll type phone please.
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Or until the device category itself is displaced. It’s easy to forget what a sea change the touch screen smartphone model created by the iPhone was.
Somebody at some point is going to have another “iPhone moment” which shifts us all again.
That's glasses. Apple's on the front line of that though. They're not in a portable form yet, but Apple's is the closest to viable AR (or "spatial computing", which is messaging I love), even if it's still too big.
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The tech has peaked. There aren't gonna be any new bangers. No one has needed to upgrade for like 6+ years now
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Colour: grey-variant
Wish this had the fun non-pro colours. Looks a like solid polish model year
I was hooked on the midnight green from the 11pro. The blue on the 15pro looks nice. Probably better in person.
Not that I’ll ever see it, since I’m just gonna slap a case on the phone anyways.
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The new A17 Pro 3nm chip comes with hardware Ray Tracing, so we will expect the next gen Apple M3 series GPU performance boost. Hopefully, the gap with discrete GPU get closer.
It gets closer for a bit and then gets further away again. It'd need to be a huge leapfrog for me to want to give up the ability to replace a discrete GPU with an integrated one. Probably good for the laptop crowd though.
I did not plan to upgrade this year, but also didn’t expect Spatial Video capture until next year. I’d like to start capturing video for the Apple Vision Pro as soon as possible.
Pricing though… translating my local price back to US it will be $2245 for the Max with 1TB 🤢
$1,000 was too much already. Over $2,000 nope. Back to android unfortunately.
I can't believe I'm saying this but if I have to replace my 12 Mini right now, I'm not sure if I would go with a 13 Mini or that Samsung Flip.
Losing SMS on my iPad, personal MBA and work MBP would suck but I did get into Beeper so maybe I could get by until they offer something I'd actually want.
Losing SMS on my iPad, personal MBA and work MBP would suck
Google Messages has a good web app. It works really well with my ancient Pixel.
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According to my 3 year cycle I’d be due for this one. But I’m not really convinced tbh.
Smartphones have just been so boring for the past few years. Ever since they all started getting full screen displays and multiple cameras, every year has felt like small incremental upgrades. You probably wouldn't gain very much by upgrading even from a 3 year old phone.
iPhones won't be interesting to me again until they get a completely new form factor like folding or something.
Nothing creative, someone do something different please. I like seeing the hidden cameras that was true innovation.
Give me 2 legit day battery life and a dock that can give a full desktop experience.
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Yeah, my 12 Pro is going strong and I don’t see any reason to move. USB-C is the biggest feature upgrade for me.
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Why did they put the 5x only in the Max version... im on 13pro and can switch next year to 15pro. But im missing some new features or what "next gen" portraits do mean.
I will wait what Pixel 8 Pro will do, maybe this year they have more to offer.
(putting my scum bag business exec hat on with obj to pump the numbers)
Because they want you to splurge on the highest tier phone.
Technically, I don’t see a reason what would prevent them from doing so. If Apple didn’t pair the components with the phone, there’s no reason why you couldn’t buy a broken pro max, swap out the camera on the pro, and have 5X Zoom
That's my take too, I don't buy their excuse. They did this in the past on I think the 11 series. The Pro Max had IIRC a better wide angle camera or some such and they withheld it from the regular Pro until the following year.
Annoying but it makes it easier for me to wait out an upgrade when I really don't need one anyway.
There could be space limitation, I couldn’t tell from the keynote images if the 5x module was larger.
Whatever the reason I don’t particularly like that the Pro and Pro Max are diverging in features other than display size. I would prefer to have the best cameras but I don’t necessarily want the biggest screen, this now means making more trade offs when picking an iPhone.
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Interesting how negative the takes are here. USB-C, AOD, a better telephoto lens, action button and future proof SOC (which is fairly standard for iPhones) has convinced me to upgrade from my iPhone 12PM.
The trade in price offered for my old phone was a big part of the reason I’m sticking with Apple over my next option, Pixel Pro. Saves me from having to deal with marketplace. The Australian pricing seems (from memory) to be pretty comparable to what I paid for my 12PM, which considering inflation and the weak Australian dollar is pretty good.
Imagine being excited about a button
It replaces what was, to me, a worthless switch. I used the switch maybe once a month. So yeah, it’s a benefit.
Wasn't an "action button" something you could configure the Home button to do many years ago on a bunch of other phones?
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Will we ever solve cameras? How much more can they really do for cameras? Will there ever be a new iPhone if the perfect camera is invented?
I'm not sure what you mean by solve cameras.
They’re just joking about what the future of iPhone could be if Apple reaches “Peak Camera” since that’s been a big ticket upgrade in pretty much each one, even slower years
Where they are so good that improvement is pointless. Like trying to improve audio quality in music. We don’t need higher quality than CDs can provide.
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Don’t really see a reason to upgrade from my 12 Pro Max
Give it 6 years. They will find a way to make you upgrade.
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I hate that Apple never talk about RAM size... I mean, I know most Apple users don't even get to worry about this anymore due to how iOS works... but still, it is hardware after all...
On a PC, more RAM is always better.
In a phone, more RAM taxes the battery more.
There is a right amount of RAM, and more importantly a right way to tune the process management for power savings.
But the only measurement of that is the end user experience. MB of RAM just isn’t a useful number.
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