Asklemmy

Probably a big chunk, thats why i left

"Foreign bad actors" Sigh. This is propaganda framing.

The fact that reddit is astroturfed by the US government, US actors like Hillary's campaign in 2016, etc is very well known. Reddit even did an oopsie many years ago admitting that the most active reddit city was a US air force base with influence operations located there, aka psyops, aka propaganda bots.

If it has foreign "bad actors" they don't control the narrative, they don't control the main big subs, they don't have an in with the admin team, they don't run even a large minority of bots.

If these mythical creatures people like you believe in (as a result of the US policy of always accuse your enemies of what you're doing to hide it better) to pretend that the problems are all those evil foreigners do exist they exist as grains of sand caught in a mighty torrential river of US propaganda machines and influence operations. They exist hopeless. Helpless. With no friends on the admin team unlike the US propagandists, fighting a pointless fight where they are almost certainly subject to frequent, near immediate bans after mass downvotes by controlled moderators and/or mods who just are that happy to prevent any viewpoint but the US one from existing.

Even framing your question like this is a massive pushing of US propaganda. This isn't so much a question as a weaponized trojan horse that starts from the point of view of the people who control the most bots and the narrative totally on reddit.

The only thing approaching foreign, non-US "bad actor" astroturfing and botting would have to be the zionist bot effort which is admin and main subs moderation team backed and also backed by the US government by the way who doesn't care to get upset about it or raise it as an issue and demand it stop because they're supplying weapons to that genocide.

I mean the way you state it is literally the line being pushed by US government censorship proponents who are angry any foreign voices, any voices but their own are getting through.

Everyone's speculating so I'll put in something concrete:

About 3 months ago, r/wholesomememes mods clamped down on karma-farm bots as hard as they could...

causing no new posts to appear for two entire days.

Hey there friends! It’s only been a few days since we started cracking down on the spam bots and excessive reposts that have been plaguing r/WholesomeMemes - and now there is nothing left! --mod

I'm a foreign good actor (to non-Australians), does that count?

Not to brag or anything, but I was nominated for a couple of acting awards in recent years.

I’m a foreign bad actor.

There would be tons of downside if they revealed the bot count. Their website would probably crash and burn. I think it's well past 50% now. Well past.

All redditors are bad actors and 99% dont live in my country, so...

foreign bad actors

All of r/WorldNews

Define "foreign"

Im not even sure how normal people post on reddit. Everytime ive ever tried to post on there in a community that isn't tiny my post is automatically removed and sent to "manual approval" which never actually happens. it baffles me how a website that is so hard to post on remains popular.

There's a few other categories to consider.

Of small niche subs I've moderated, there's maybe a 10 to 1 or higher ratio of non-active users to active. Look at the highest voted posts of all time or the last year in a sub. If the sub as 10K subscribers, the highest number of votes on any post might be 1K or so. Maybe far less.

I saw on a couple of the sub's metrics that we would consistently gain 10-20 users a day, and maybe lose 1-3 subscribers daily. But with very little increased engagement. But so we would gain sometimes 500 or even 1000 users in a month, and nothing changes. Why? Always drove me crazy.

A lot of real people start up accounts and quickly abandon them. A lot of bots sub every subreddit and do stupid things like comment when you're comment is a haiku. Every script kiddie that ever coded a broken bot that never worked right might still have 4 or 5 axcounts out there as a dead subscribers.

And let's not forget the massive amount of people with multiple accounts (hi!) and the ones with sometimes severe mental health problems, wannabe trolls, and straight up Aholes trying to evade bans. There's likely more of these out there than actual malicious and active bots.

As for actual malicious bots posting, it's likely very few, and limited to engagement on larger subs to drop parts of a larger group of talking points. But the places that normally go for that kind of thing also don't mind hiring a bunch of Nigerian 419 scammers to be real humans posting from the bot accounts sometimes.