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[–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 9 points 1 day ago

They did the same with The Pirate Bay. Didn't bother them at all. Stay strong, never give up, fellow sailers!
(if you want to learn more about it check out https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/)

[–] ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Think about how many times the copyright nazis have tried to crack down on piracy and then imagine how much good that kind of effort could do if they set up sting operations to catch pedos

[–] countrypunk@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One makes them money and the other doesn't, unfortunately.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 25 points 2 days ago

They're engaged in one activity and not the other.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

To Catch a Predator made a lot of money. I don't know why they stopped it just because that one politician killed himself.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell me that the entity overseeing this infrastructure replied with "lol no"

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which one? Internet is not held by one thing, it's a network.

That can be shut down by bad actors, easier than simple folk might think.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Explain to me how that works if the traffic is end to end encrypted.

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

you can't end to end encrypt the traffic destination or else no one will know where to route said traffic. this isn't tor.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

IDK why you're getting down voted, you're right.

Besides how would such a filter even work? I mean dropping all packets to specific IP addresses will lead to chaos with any organization that uses NAT or GCNAT.

Sure, you can circumvent getting your own IP address banned, by using a tunnel, but then your tunnel gateway is the one to get banned instead. End to end encryption won't solve the problem. Unless we actually setup a system like tor, and don't leave our own network. But that would be pretty easy to squash, wouldn't it? I mean a network only set up for piracy, it will get it's main operators taken down pretty fast.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

With I2P each user is a node/router, so it does not rely on central nodes like Tor.

The only issue is it's slow, because most users don't allocate/have much bandwidth. Because of it's garlic routing (similar to Tor's onion routing) traffic is encrypted multiple times with multiple hops which also impacts throughput and latency.

The good thing is it's already suppported by qBittorrent (and BiglyBT), but setting it up is a manual process.

Also, qBittorrent doesn't support DHT over I2P yet, so it's necessary to use an i2p tracker like tracker2.postman.i2p.

But that would be pretty easy to squash, wouldn't it? I mean a network only set up for piracy, it will get it's main operators taken down pretty fast.

As long as there's reasonable doubt that i2p is only used for piracy, it shouldn't get blocked. Similarly, Tor isn't only used for trading drugs, so it mustn't get blocked by democracies.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

You've already put more thought into it than they have.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they're not checking the contents for copyright violations, but the source and destination.

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well yeah, it's way simpler. you just block the entire website that hosts copyrighted traffic.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds like it can be engineered around.

[–] sudoku@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

well yeah, but how many people actually go around such measures?