Technology

Quality of basically every automaker has tanked post COVID, including Honda. And the prices are highway robbery too, its all a race to the bottom now.

I don't drive Nissans but a family memebr of mine has forever I don't mind them and haven't seen too many issues, im just glad Mitsubishi isn't a large part of this, yet anyway.

My 2018 Honda Accord has been a nightmare, and I stubbornly refuse to replace it until it's 10 years old. I half-wonder if the quality has already started to go downhill.

From the factory, the air conditioner dumped all of its condensation onto the passenger-seat floorboards. Since then, I've had to get the AC unit replaced twice.

EVERYTHING rattles in that car -- the seatbelt mounts, the visors, all kinds of stuff inside the front console (maybe inside the ventilation system?), the front defroster bezel, and the trim around the back window. It drives me absolutely bonkers.

I'd actually been hoping Nissan would get their shit together in regards to their CVT transmissions... because my favorite car over the years was my 2003 Nissan Maxima.

...I guess I should see what Mazda has to offer...

I'm sure mergers have improved things, but all the recent meegers I can think of have made thibgs worse. My guess is that it will be a net negative for Honda, although they are dragging their feet hard enough on EVs and hybrids that they were heading down that path anyway.

I know it's anecdotal..but my 2019 Odyssey has so far needed a lot more work than my 2013 Passat. Considering I got both of them at 1 year old.

This is completely counter to most expectations.

I remember when Physics Girl took Shell money to promote hydrogen powered cars.

It was very suspicious that they never talked about how the hydrogen was produced.

Alternative take: Honda fucked up by not going the EV route, now they're behind. Nissan built a fuckton of Leafs and probably has at least some decent in-house EV expertise built up. Best case scenario you get good Honda EVs.

It's probably not going to be the best case scenario, though.

The merger isn't supposed to help consumers. It's to help businesses that are incapable of keeping up and need support. The Japanese government has a history of merging companies together to ensure that they stay competitive. MITI did it in the 70s to Japanese technology companies like Sony, Sharp, Panasonic, etc. most of those are still around today and even leading the industry.

Again, this isn't to help any consumers.

No it's not going to be like that. I think they're going to exchange patents and things like that to catch up to the EV markets. The Japanese are very conservative when it comes to technology, believe it or not. Because of the older people being higher in hierarchy. They don't like change and disruption. Meanwhile in Korea and China, things have been moving fast and following the trends.

As an owner of a Nissan I am thrilled Honda is bailing them out. I need those spare parts to flow.

Are you worried that this is like when Boeing bought McDonnell Douglas but the MD businessmen shoved out the engineers who ran Boeing?

As an aside I didn’t love my Honda but it didn’t require an engine replacement out of warranty like my Nissan did. I appreciated that Nissan did the right thing but it was concerning to need a new engine due to a manufacturing defect.

We're just going to have to spend the next 20 years researching each model to figure out whether it was made by nissan guys in nissan plants or honda guys in honda plants. It will probably realistically be functionally separated for a long time. Hopefully, everything will settle closer to honda quality.

Probably should have put some fans on the battery for the Leaf lol

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Acfiniti? Infinura?

Honissan.