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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Anti cheat with kernel privileges? no, thanks.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

i have no problem with privileged code or trusted computer code as long as it's open source, open protocols and managed by an open foundation of some sort

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Serious question, how does this work on Linux when using wine? Elden ring uses this one and it runs in Linux. It doesn't have kernel access does it?

[–] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 weeks ago

EAC on Linux uses special runtime usually provided by Steam and it runs in userspace. However, developers have to whitelist said runtime and that's where the issue is

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't solve cheating on the client.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. But it's the cheapest solution for the studio/publisher and most gamers blindly accept it, with some even actively defending the practice.

[–] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is also insecure with possiblity to crash your computer, the only advantage is that it is cheap.

It's also easy.

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think there's a way to solve it on the server either.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There absolutely is, it just takes effort. Many MMOs do this, and as a result almost all of them are playable on linux.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Solving it on the client is literally impossible, solving it on the server is difficult and could be impossible, big difference.

It's like someone trying to send a car to the moon by pulling the steering wheel. It's impossible, the fact that building a rocket is hard or that you don't know how to do it or that it could fail has no bearing on the fact that trying to pull the steering wheel on a car is definitely the wrong way to go about it.

In the same manner solving cheating on the client is the same kind of impossible, anyone defending it sounds like a flat-earther to anyone with the basic knowledge of client/server architecture.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yep and drm is a similarly impossible thing that many put on their best grown up faces and pretend is real.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Stop giving EA money. It's not that hard. I haven't given them money for 10 years.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the way... The last battlefield... I am still salty

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What's wrong about Battlefield 3?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Bad Company 2 i think you mean, BF3 was where it all started to go wrong.

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Same, I stopped giving them money exactly 10 years ago, since they killed Dawngate, my beloved.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Simple solution. Don't buy those games.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Boycott PUBG and Rainbow Six Siege

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

No problem for me.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

In a never-ending arms race what can they hope to achieve by imprisoning a minority just in case they're more likely to be a spy?

Would like to see attempts to approach cheating in a non-hopeless way.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

If a company says it doesn't want my money, I am happy to oblige.

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

EAC and battleye aren't that good at detecting VMs and can be made to run fairly easily in my experience.

RIOT vanguard though? Hell nah, this is one of the most invasive rootkits ever created.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But Vms require 2 Gpus there is no GPU sharing like windows

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

yeh, I have 2 GPUs

[–] Goonette@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago

kinda wacky how most games run better on linux but the devs fuck us by using anti-cheat that doesn't work and makes the game not run

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Isn't it sus there is no Open Source Anti-Cheat Solution and most of them are proprietary( I am fine with proprietary software but just wondering about this) + I wonder if in the future EAC or Battle Eye will force the user to Install DKMS modules.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

You could always... you know... buy either a "work-only" PC (something like a Orange pi 5 max) or a "Windows PC" to play these games?

t. Got three "computers" with different functions and I'm about to have a 4th one.